[FZR1000Exup]

Hey guys,

Just bought a Bentley EXP Speed 8 by Carrera today. I personally think the car's gorgeous, with excellent details and very well made.

However, as I was putting it through its first run, it didn't seem to want to move until almost full throttle!! By then, the wheels were spinning like mad and the car flew off the track!! D'ooooooooooh!!!!!! (It was off the track before even one lap was done)

I don't think the car is the problem, well, I mean it's brand new! Could it be the hand controllers? I run Scaley Sport tracks with Sport power unit and standard 60 ohm controllers. My Focus rally car (scaley) runs ok but the Bentley just don't want to know until almost full throttle.
Maybe coz the car is Carrera? Anyone?

Many many thanks..

 

[Difflock]

I'd say look at the car FZR (ooh poetry!). I take it that you still have the mags installed? Check that the rearmost one (with the screws) isn't grounding out on your rails. If it is then check to see if there's a plastic spacer between it and the car. If the spacer is present then remove it and check the car again

If there is clearance then try running the car with the other mag placed fully forward.

I know the slot on Scaley Sport is deeper than classic, but check the car's guide blade too.

Hope this helps,

Mark.

 

[astro]

could be the braids - try flattening em and stuff. They are so bushy they sometimes make poor contact with scaley sport track

 

[Race-Jan]

QUOTE (FZR1000Exup @ 24 Mar 2004, 23:25)Hey guys,

Just bought a Bentley EXP Speed 8 by Carrera today. I personally think the car's gorgeous, with excellent details and very well made.

However, as I was putting it through its first run, it didn't seem to want to move until almost full throttle!! By then, the wheels were spinning like mad and the car flew off the track!! D'ooooooooooh!!!!!! (It was off the track before even one lap was done)

I don't think the car is the problem, well, I mean it's brand new! Could it be the hand controllers? I run Scaley Sport tracks with Sport power unit and standard 60 ohm controllers. My Focus rally car (scaley) runs ok but the Bentley just don't want to know until almost full throttle.
Maybe coz the car is Carrera? Anyone?

Many many thanks..

FZR,

The Carrera is a nice car, but those magnets stink... get rid of the rearmost one and move the front magnet forward as much as possible, you'll see a notable difference

Better still, upgrade your controllers... Parma's econo 45 ohms will suit nicely, but as your driving progresses you'll probably prefer the 25 ohms ... so why bother, buy a set of electronic controllers.. Professor Motor will be fine (and you WILL see a big difference in the characteristics of your scaley Focus

)

HTH, Jan

 

[jonny s]

In the interests of fairness and all that ...Just wanted to say that my dog runs like a Carerra Bentley!

 

[Harry Porsche]

In the absence of any dragging, rubbing, braid trouble, etc. It sounds like your controller is weak. The stock scaley controllers I received in my original kit lasted a little over three months and didn't work well with all motors. Some worked like your beautiful Bentley, and some ran o.k. I replaced with Professor Motor and haven't regretted it. They work well with everything put on the track, and are upgradeable. Well worth the expense (IMHO).

P.S., if you are running with one transformer, get the other one. Dual wall-warts run much better.

Harry

 

[Guest]

My Bentley EXP Speed 8 runs OK for a Carrera car on my Ninco track with a Ninco guide to replace the Carrera one. Take the rear magnet out and junk the strange switch idea along with the wires, just keep the ones that make the motor work 'obviously' with the new car (04' version) the gearing works OK and even stops reasonably well. Thinking about crafting my Bentley body onto a Proslot Toyota chassis! much better. Have fun

 

[tadream]

Hi Guys,

Had the same problem, my beautiful Bentley was absolutely NO match to my other LMPs.
Tried removing some of the interior extras like switches and so on, even cut away some of the plastic which in my opinion causes overweight... to no avail...

Finally bought a HRS chassis from Sean, adapted it to the Bentley and ... Tada !
Now it runs how it is supposed to run, not the fastest in my stable but it's competitive.

Cheers,

Yves

 

[Intergrali]

woof woof

erm, what controller are you using? this could be the problem if the rating is too high!

 

[LMP]

he's using scaley sports, 60 ohm. Thats quite high yeah?

Good thinking Inte.

 

[Intergrali]

well then boys there lies the problem, get some lower rated adjustable resistors

 

[astro]

put some skinnies on the front wheels and slot p formular tyres on the rear, and mine goes very well now

 

[Wankel Ickx]

QUOTE My Bentley runs like a dog...

Yes, but how does it smell?

[Sound of cymbals]
Ba, doom, TSCH!

[Arthur Askey]
I thank you.

My beef was the same as yours. Nice looking beast, bit of a poodle as a runner (no offence to all you poodle owners out there. Jonny?).

Taking advice from here I cut out the switch gear and all the resistors (when I soldered the wires back on... she ran backwards. D'oh!) and having already loosened the bodywork and removed the magnets...she ran much better. Least, I think she ran much better. Could removing the extra electrics really make that much difference I wonder.

There's still room for improvement but things are better I'm sure.

FZR, remind me and I'll show you next week.

 

[jonny s]

Arthur Askey, blimey mate showing your age! I`m having an hour off from running the club to sit here with me hound. She often sits up here on the armchair gazing at SF. Been jazzing the circuit up today with Peter Penny, fellow SF member and handy at everything man!

Yves (tadman) came up with the answer,though the resistor is a factor. Thanks for the steer on improving the car further. I heard that a Pro Slot Toyota GT1 chassis fits nicely and then we have a winner!!

 

[McLaren]

Jonny, can I borrow your dog for this weekend?
Will it fit on your track, and which tyres work well?
Do I need to bring down any 'fuel'? If so, would some sausages do?

Lotus

 

[jonny s]

She is a bit big for the track as she`s a Retriever but given half a chance she`d be up on it running after the cars. I`m trying to teach her to marshal but the kids at the club have her sitting up and begging for cheese. So now she won`t marshal unless there is cheese as a reward.

Int wanted to borrow her too,don`t know what that was all about but he`s bought her a basque and a blonde wig

 

[FZR1000Exup]

A Retriever that marshalls? Well that's something!!

I might borrow my neighbour's cat and train it to race.......

Anyway, just got hold of a PM controller and what the difference a controller make!!!!! Although the car would now react pretty normally according to different throttle positions(comparing to the standard scaley controllers). There are still a few things not quite right about the car:

Firstly, I noticed the car is really noisy. It sounds like the gears are grinding something, especially at low speed. I mean the gears are actually greased and the contact is pretty good.

Secondly, the handling seems really odd. You can never tell if there's gonna be grip round the next corner. Maybe I'm not used to driving LM racers?? Or it could just be the tires? I did move the magnet to the most forward position but then the car would just slide like mad (then crash)..

Finally, I don't know if the car is geared too high or it has a crap motor. The throttle response between low and medium speed is a bit sluggish, although the top speed seems pretty good.

I suspect some of these problems are probably due to my lack of experience since I've not driven many cars, so I can't really tell what's good or bad. But I mean surely an LM racer would drive better than a Ford Focus Rally car, right?

P.S. Hey Wankel, it's not that I can't wait until you show me next week, but I'm just too eager to try to make the bleeming car run as well as it looks!!

 

[Difflock]

Strange that! Carrera use nylon? well plastic anyway, gears for both crownwheel and pinion and they are usually pretty smooth in my opinion. Are the axle bearings and motor seated properly? Have a look at them whilst rotating the axle by hand. Is there a tight spot which isn't the "chugging" of the motor armature changing position?

Another thing to check - this happened on my Bentley is that the bodywork over the rear wheels can catch on the inside rim of the rear tyres (Thanks GRAH1!)

Hope you get to the bottom of it!
Mark.

 

[astro]

just to agree with diff, the bentley and all carreras are the quietest cars I have, much quieter and quicker than the ford focus rally (or at least, my m8s one, which rolls if you take a corner at any speed).

The acceleration and breaking is poor on it though, due to gearing/motor combination. I run it with magnets, and it was quite slow (but faster than the focus) until I changed the tyres. Have you trued the standard tyres yet?

But the noise suggests some king of fault,

 

[Wankel Ickx]

QUOTE Strange that! Carrera use nylon? well plastic anyway, gears for both crownwheel and pinion

Ah, ha! I knew I couldn't trust a word said on these forums. Who was it told me that gears ought to be of different materials when I questioned brass pinions eating plastic contrates?