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hello all, after far too many hours spent reading all the excellent advice and information on this site i've got going with my wooden track and literally up to my elbows in contact adhesive, grouting and paint mixing, and loving every minute of building my new sandstone cliffs.i got going again with the old scalextric track over the summer as a neighbour gave me a load of old curves, the track grew, bigger than the toy room and into the big space i've got near my workshop, during august that track was decorated and filled with props (with help from my 6 year old, who built a lego snack area for the pits!) and we have since staged a successful tournament last saturday with 27 drivers of all ages (not bad for a village of 250 people), since then i started on track number 2 in wood, have done the levels, routing and nearly finished the cliffs, but awaiting the copper and still tons of modelling to do.....but how happy am i doing it?, you get to regress to being a 4 year old mucking about with dirt and paint and glue, then when its done you turn in to an 8 year old and speed around a small spanish village at 1/32nd scale....GREAT.

anyway, just wanted to sign in and will try and post some pics soon of the 2 tracks,(when i've figured out how!)

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Right, so this is what you do. You have two cars that are identical except one is 1:32 and the other is 1:43. The 1:32 goes into a tunnel which triggers the 1:43 to come out the other side, further away from you. The 1:43 goes around the planes, etc. and disappears into another tunnel which then triggers the 1:32 to come back out, do a circuit and go back into tunnel 1. Both cars are on their own loops, see? This way you can achieve a great optical illusion and use your plane idea. Cool, huh?
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Well I have some good video of 1/43's sliding,but for some reason I run into trouble when I try to load it to the internet??
I DO have this old video of my 1/43 scale track shortly after I got it going, unfortunately the quality is low. (taken with a still camera), but you can clearly see the car sliding around the corner in the middle of the frame!! Trust me if you use the SCX Compact cars and run no mag with an adjust able power supply you will be able to dial in just the amount of Slide you want!! The car in the video is a kit bashed Bandai JTCC car with SCX Tuner Chassis!!

PM me your address and I can Email you some better vids!!


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ok so now i'm 95 % convinced i'll browse the internet for a couple of decent mexican styley 1:43;s

in the meantime i've routed the big bit of the track and added another 6m or so to the run length, its now pretty intense with some cool combination curves etcm, the spiral is bolted in too. made a few mistakes as it was quite confusing to do in the end with so many routes but it does define the area much better and i';m starting to feel happier about the little events that i can put in the layout, the planes seem to have grown a bit too

see what you think, all comments welcome as per usual


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Well to me who don't know nothing about planes it looks like planes. the jet seems a bit on the small side but the others appear as "planes".
But of course if you are gonna be a rivet counter you are gonna point to the fact that the portrayed planes are not true to scale but for the imaginative kid it's gonna be a deserted airfield.
You could try to destroy the significant features of the different models, just using the shape of the planes. Or maybe some Frankenstein mash upps ??
Sort of shape recognition rather than specific model recognition.

If you could get some really cheap jets a little larger it would be cool to have a whole "stack" of planes like a stack of cars at the junkyard.
They do look a little disappointingly small, but I'm sure you'll be able to work around it. You're a clever boy. I'm with Psrrfh, you could try breaking them up a bit more and stretch them that way. They'd still be recognisable as aircraft. When you started talking about the idea, I envisaged a more surreal graveyard style, wings sticking up out of the ground from a hill that could once have been a plane body. A bit dream like and almost totally derelict.

Cheers
Embs
you're both right as per usual, time to break out the pvc drainage tube fuselages and mdf wing sections...i built a bat-plane for my son yesterday out of an old silicone tube so how difficult can it be!...then i'll use the (relatively expensive) kits for on top of the piles or something.i like the track though so far and now its defined i can figure out the sliding width and start piling up the scrap, then its on with the plasterboard paste...any ideas on how to recreate smashed concrete like in the post with the black widow (post 194 on page 13)??, i fancy digging the floor up a bit too, maybe some small bumps in the track... and do you think the cars can be made to slide through clumps of weeds??

oh so much experimentation to do and so little heat in the workshop! snow on the mountains!!

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If anyone's got a chance of pulling it off it'd be you... Or Psrrfh....

As far as the broken concrete goes, plaster to the rescue. For blocks of broken concrete, just make a standard plaster of paris mix, pour a slab and break it up when dry. Instant concrete. For broken slab, I think I'd be inclined to try the same thing and split it through the middle (enter hammer and chisel?).

Another possibility would be "FRock" a bit like I've used on my track. Tear up some upholstery foam. Trim the density off it with a sharp blade. Coat with several layers of plasterers joint compoound. For extra strength you might try 'cornice cement' or even soak it in plain plaster, either of which will dry harder than the joint compound.

No doubt Psrrfh will come up with some other ideas.

Want some warmth? I'm in Victoria, the southern end of mainland Australia (not quite as far south as Tasmania). We're currently weathering the hottest early November in 100 years. The last 4 days have been over 35C and nights haven't made it below 25C. It's a little early to be so uncomfortable at night. Doesn't bode well for the Summer season.

Cheers
Embs
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cheers ember, i'll be trying that plaster slab idea.
in the meantime i've been building part of a strato-cules!
bits of old pvc tubing from the bar drainage, a piece of an old tape deck (rear ramp) and some actual motor bearings from the fridge when it broke in the summer (knew it'd come in useful!)
finding scrap around here is/nt proving too difficult, !and getting rid of some of the stored up junk that "could always have a use"!

anyway the real model kits are helping a lot in my knowledge of aviation engineering and i think this big hulk looks feasible!? by the way its not supposed to fly with its arse up like that, just for loading purposes!


(apparantly theres no way on earth thunderbird 2 could ever have taken off and its a design icon!)

so as you can see having fun but loads to do!

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Right on, I would say, but are there room enough for the taller cars ?? better save yourself some grief now and go get yourself a Fly truck and a Ninco 4x4

As for the concrete i would go for the hammer slappin aproach. but I,m looking forward because the image a few pages back looked cool.
I'm sure some WW2 diorama could have some molds you could use for the craters.

Piled up tinted mdf dust mixed with glue is good for gravel and concrete debris but it is allso very grippy and needs sanding to allow for sliding.
Great idea, but shouldn't the planes have been 1/32 ???
anybody know this song??
goes a little like this
.......OLD MAN RIVET ??

:)
slotrace...artistic licence and artists pocket!, there are hardly any 1:32 bombers, i looked into it a lot, but loads of money, the idea is to 'bulk out ' the smaller scale stuff
lars..already got a fly truck and a 4x4 the truck is in early retirement as it doesnt even get round the village track because of the proximity to the cliffs, the 4x4 will go through the fuselage as does the lambo(very wide), but got to hit it square on no sliding around in there

as for the rubble..the ideal will be driving over it! not just around it but without causing deslots on everything other than those specialoff road things we'll have to see, gonna start experimenting with small jumps too
When I read about your problems with scale my thoughts were just build some things that look like planes. If you look at the plastics kits you have they look reasonably possible to imitate (for someone with your skills).

I would be interested to see what you come up that simulates driving over rubble but does deslot cars that do not have suspension. I think that is close to an impossibility by definition. Unless you draw or photo paste the rubble on the track, but then there is no actually driving experience of driving over rubble.
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My! You have been busy!! As mentioned earlier the planes did look a little small comparatively and although I think they would look better next to 1/43 scale cars rather then 1/32 scale cars, you may have difficulty finding 1/43 scale cars that you are happpy with?? The SCXcars would run fine, but they won't convey the feeling you are going for; Carrera has a few that would, but their 1/43 guide is not good for sliding!! To that end maybe 1/32 will give you the model selection you need right now and just try and leave it "open" to introduce some 1/43's at a later time when they introduce something that will work for you! To that end I have decide to Build you a car!
Just so you don't get too worked up; I am not as quick a worker as you! so it might be a while!


I do think the NEW plane you are building is perfect! A little paint, a few panel lines and a bit of rubble and you are good to go!!
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wow...santa masmojo claus....can't wait to see what you come up with...i saw the carrera pickup today at 1:43 which could be interesting and they also have the block style subaru no? but you said they're useless with that pin affair they have
looking at diecast there is everything and loads of cool stuff, but i assume they would be just too heavy to drive?
would i have to take a resin mould off each one?
and why do they all insist on putting black windscreens in, can't stand it!, does the motor fill the cockpit?

anyway, i'm looking at radars and antenna now, possibly put a use to the wire ball from the flower arrangment found a couple of months ago!

all good stuff, rubbish starts to take on a whole new meaning!
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QUOTE (sig @ 10 Nov 2009, 18:01) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wow...santa masmojo claus....can't wait to see what you come up with...i saw the carrera pickup today at 1:43 which could be interesting and they also have the block style subaru no? / ... /
and why do they all insist on putting black windscreens in, can't stand it!, does the motor fill the cockpit?
Sig .. here below is a photo of pair of CarreraGO!!! cars from the 007-set.



As you can see, the motor is very small, and lacks some torgue. I've added a bit of weight, a metal washer, under the sticker, some 10 gr. maybe, I'm not sure. Car runs a bit more stable. Had no photo of a blue Subaru [I've given all this stuff away as pressies] but I seem to recal I had to stick the weight on underside of the hood .. instead of the floor. Had a run with it a few weeks ago, it works still ..

As you can also see in the picture, the white *thingy* is the guide pin/keel. Hard, oval profile, plastic one, snaps in place. And the braids .. well, the work. Could be better .. You get a couple of extra of those in a set or with a car.

The black window is snapped/bonded in situ, ought to be easy to remove [?] although I've not tried it. But then you'd have to make an interior .. and have a miniature driver?

-- ron --
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QUOTE (sig @ 10 Nov 2009, 18:01) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>wow...santa masmojo claus....can't wait to see what you come up with...i saw the carrera pickup today at 1:43 which could be interesting and they also have the block style subaru no? but you said they're useless with that pin affair they have
looking at diecast there is everything and loads of cool stuff, but i assume they would be just too heavy to drive?
would i have to take a resin mould off each one?
and why do they all insist on putting black windscreens in, can't stand it!, does the motor fill the cockpit?

anyway, i'm looking at radars and antenna now, possibly put a use to the wire ball from the flower arrangment found a couple of months ago!

all good stuff, rubbish starts to take on a whole new meaning!


Mojo Claus is probably about right! As that'll be bout how long it takes me to get'er done!!
Yes, the Ford trucks and the WRX are 2 of the ones I thought might float your boat and there is a Caprice Police car. Of course somebody with your skills should have no problem retrofitting a Ninco or Fly guide in the bottom of one of these!! The Mini's would also probably work O.K. even with the pin guide due to their short wheelbase. The pin guide can be filed more or less round, when you do this it will no longer bind in the slot and it will slide a little, but it will also flip around 180 degrees almost as easily!


The 1/43 cars do not have much in the way of interiors, although there is a small push for such. These are considered more toys then even 1/32 cars and on top of that they are so small that it's hard too see inside the cars that do have interiors anyway. On top of that they are less then 1/2 to cost of your typical 1/32 scale car so they have to save money somewhere. There are also a considerable number of models from AMT and Heller that are easily converted, including some rally cars, Citroen, Peugeout, Renault, Subaru and Ford Focus!! the AMT's tend to be late 60's cars including Mustangs and Camaro's. These obviiuosly have clear windows and so an interior can be fitted!! There are people making resin casts of diecasts and resin bodies, so that too is an option!

Don't forget the toy isle at the store or thrift store, plenty of good stuff to cull from!!
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Sig. Lookin' good. I knew you'd work it out. The piles of bits are working for me, And that scratch Herc(?), Brilliant! I agree, you may do well to get a Fly truck or Scaley Range Rover (cheaper and you can trash it and use it for scenery when finished) just for easy height checks.

Aust Air Force has just announced retirement of it's fleet of Caribou. You might pick up a few of them cheap.


Junk shops here at the moment have gone crazy over small farm windmills for the garden. They'd be great to strip down for Radio Towers and the like. Check into some of the Railway model stuff. You might pick up a few things that can be adapted quite cheaply. Or go your usual route, and scratch build it.


Cheers
Embs
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thanks for the extra info on the 1:43 stuff guys, i find it difficult to find much on the web as they assume they're just for kids i suppose, seems the quality is gettiing better though. i need to see them live and direct next time i'm in barcelona!
heres an image of some old airfield giving us an idea of what is needed in terms of architecture.. could be a good excuse to try some of brads telegraph poles and looks like i'll need a cesna or 2 also!

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You've got to have a couple of smaller planes for the runners to use for short jaunts. Maybe a little prop-jet. And perhaps a swanky personal jet hiding under some tarps or camo net.

Sorry. We just keep adding more work for you, don't we.
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