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hello all, after far too many hours spent reading all the excellent advice and information on this site i've got going with my wooden track and literally up to my elbows in contact adhesive, grouting and paint mixing, and loving every minute of building my new sandstone cliffs.i got going again with the old scalextric track over the summer as a neighbour gave me a load of old curves, the track grew, bigger than the toy room and into the big space i've got near my workshop, during august that track was decorated and filled with props (with help from my 6 year old, who built a lego snack area for the pits!) and we have since staged a successful tournament last saturday with 27 drivers of all ages (not bad for a village of 250 people), since then i started on track number 2 in wood, have done the levels, routing and nearly finished the cliffs, but awaiting the copper and still tons of modelling to do.....but how happy am i doing it?, you get to regress to being a 4 year old mucking about with dirt and paint and glue, then when its done you turn in to an 8 year old and speed around a small spanish village at 1/32nd scale....GREAT.

anyway, just wanted to sign in and will try and post some pics soon of the 2 tracks,(when i've figured out how!)

cheers sig
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its drawn with some old program called vellum, the laser people usually need dwg or dxf format, illustrator will do it easy but its not so good with complicated curves, i'm thinking of doing an aerial tower for mexico in the same way but 1:43 makes for even finer cuts..could be tricky?
Very nice iron work sig. Those prices seem very reasonable. Do you have to take into account the width of the laser cut when designing these pieces? How wide of a path does it cut? Very interesting use of technology!

brad, the laser is just about negligible in width. well i say that but until now the decimas of mm that we are talking about has never bothered me...obviously with miniatures you have to take into account the thickness of the sheet too...i was talking to the bloke there and he says he does a fair bit of stuff in brass for a famous spanish train HO modeller...don't know who, the panels can be surface etched by laser too, but this is usually limited to lettering i think (for numbering components etc). one good side effect of the laser process is the patina the hot lser leaves onn the steel, it changes the colour a bit and picks out the edges (a bit like dry brushing!!)

Addams family/Gothic track would be a great idea. But appropriate cars might be hard to get. You'd need an awful lot of hearses, limousines and probably a few darker style of hot-rod.

The laser cut metal work is absolutely beautiful. I can think of so many items I'd like to have done, if only I could find someone to do it.
When you do Embs, I've got some requests!

Sig... awesome, amazing, true to life!

Haven't said much here, but I'm watching in awe!

Great work, keep it coming.

QUOTE (knoath @ 20 Nov 2009, 20:09) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>When you do Embs, I've got some requests!
I'll let you know Knoath. So far the only one that I've found is a plastics specialist, but that's only going as far as Geelong. Got to be someone in Melbourne that does it, which would put you closer than I. But you can guarantee it won't be at the kind of price that Sig has been talking about.

The best I've come up with locally is a friendly neighbourhood blacksmith! But I do at least have a contact with a CNC router when I find some room. And I've just promised to look after a friend's lathe, which is going to be fun. Question is, do I install it here in the garage or in the limo shed which has way more room, but is a 10 minute drive away. Tough choice...

So, Sig, to what other uses are you planning on putting the laser cutter. Surely there are other things planned. I think those benches are fantastic. Would love a couple. and a matching table. Perhaps even a BBQ hotplate
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maybe i should go into business...miniature furniture aswell as the big stuff!! seriously, i'd love to tie this stuff into real life...keep my mum off my back a bit longer!!
.if you sent over sketches with dimensions i could draw it up and get it done..bridges etc, i'll design them flat packes and then just metal glue them up in the house so to avoid postage costs...the standardised stuff.(benches , handrails etc )would be straight forward too. what about support structures for water towers?foot bridges, electrical pylons, etc etc.the list is endless!...seriously i could be up for that
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That's really not such a silly idea Sig. Was thinking this evening while I was spending an hour painting a rock retaining wall (I still don't know how you manage to achieve so much in so short a time frame) "How great would it be to be able to do this sort of thing on a full time basis." Not talking about making serious money, just enough to be able to keep up the excuse of doing it. Find a niche and fill it. I, and no doubt many others, have discovered a destinct lack of Australian flora and fauna to suitable realism and scale. If I could manufacture suitably realistic, suitably Australian looking trees I could quite happily make them to order for a suitable sum. Some one here who makes custom tracks is currently charging AUD 180 per small gum tree!!!

I think you could well be onto something there on the laser cut stuff though Sig. Flat pack would work great. Kind of like a scale Ikea, except Spanish.
Looking good sig

like I said my wife is drawing inspiration form your landscaping and is itching to get started!!

Problem is I havent even settled on a design for the tables yet!! Going to get into the garage tomorrow and see if I can find a bit more space for a slightly bigger table.

BTW were about 5 mins from the Ironbridge!

We'll hopefully get over to the Fira Slot meet at Vic in March, so will need to lowdown on slot retailers to visit in Barca.


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Seriously, Next time you knock out some benches or something universally useful, just have a couple dozen extra's made (or whatever) and sell then to finance future projects!!
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IMO the bench sides and hand rails could be photo etched. They do not have to be that strong. Someone in the print industry could get the negatives done easily!
Again with the needing to have access to the right kinds of people. Got printers here, but they all use digital setup for everything.
QUOTE (sig @ 19 Nov 2009, 11:48) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

the bench pieces are the smallest things i've ever ordered from the laser company but they came out well, the slats from the model shop glued with cold weld as is the corner of the balcony railings which are about as fine as they can go without distorting(1mm verticals in 1.5mm sheet, heres an overview of the plaza

Awesome modelling sig! Those balcony railings (and benchs) are exactly what I have been looking for. Can you put me in touch with the company that makes them?

It's hard to know where the track ends and the building it's in starts. Then I realised no track ever ends.
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QUOTE (Phil Kalbfell @ 20 Nov 2009, 22:42) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>IMO the bench sides and hand rails could be photo etched. They do not have to be that strong. Someone in the print industry could get the negatives done easily!

I am in the print industry & I can tell you nobody has used film for 5 to 10 years!
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graham, ..the company is err.. me!, i did the drawing and made the order, they're just the laser company that cut bits of steel, i can order you some stuff if you long a balcony have you got?

sig...the new boss of 'sig miniature metalwork!!' (that world famous company)
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cheap chinese shop saves the day again...2 euros for a really bad model of alonsos car and a load of mechanics tools...hoorah, last one in the shop too..however not very pleased looks very un real, meybe i need some duck boards on the floor and a blckboard or something on the wall to give it more of a workshop feel!..its only suposed to be the temporary pits for the race down in the cave..but i'm at a loss as how to style it
any ideas please!

cheers for now sig

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e-z up style awning or tarporling covering the work area/tools. I'd have the large workbench in the back of a van of some kind so it looks like they have just rocked up in an old transit van or something, pulled out the temporary awning and plonked the tools underneath. When we go racing and we arent using the full race truck, the workbench is built into the van and we use lightweight aluminum tables to put the tools and stuff on under a lightweight awning. Just a thought.

good thinking bat man
...will be on the look out for an old you put a plastic sheet down on the ground or anything to keep from getting muddy??
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there are a few different types of flooring we use depending on the paddock. These are in order of quality

Plastic interlocking tiles - your guys look too hardcore to use that.

Plastic sheet

A really fine mesh sheet, lets the water drain away and is lightweight.

Or just nothing

Just match the style of flooring to the shoddyness of the main awning
for example you wouldnt use the swanky plastic tile flooring with an old dirty plastic awning sheet and a few rusty poles.

I was envisaging something like this - not quite a ford transit or a race van, but you get the idea. Your setting doesn't look "modern" and is very gritty, I couldnt imagine them turning up in a fully kitted out spotless race transporter. They look like "clubman" racers on a bit of a budget.
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Chalkboard full of notes and diagrams and doodling sounds like a good idea. Radio or something for them to listen to. Maybe a camp stretcher for them to have a kip on in down time.
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