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I've seen a couple of people talking about the Chaparral 2F recently, and a few people asking about the Cheetah.

Well MRRC are bringing these out again soon apparently...

Is this common knowledge or did I miss the announcement?

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· Allan Wakefield
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Ya missed it


Cheetah is due out in the 4th quarter and the chappie is out and has been for awhile, just a car in the news is all NOT a new release.

Talking of which - if anyone knows where I can find the number 66 chappie - well you know how to get in touch!
 

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"the chappie is out and has been for awhile."

It is?? Oh wait, is Swiss referring to the earlier 2C? I think the Cheetah and 2F are to be limited editions with lolling about drivers, right? I sure hope the cars will also be available in standard format. Fat chance though.

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I'll second that. The promised MRRC releases for these two cars has not yet come to fruition and no retailers in the UK are advertising knowledge of potential release dates beyond the vagueness of '2004'. Don't hold your breath
 

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DOh! of course I am and the 2c number 66 is the one I am looking for - I.D.I.O.T


That'll teach me to let my fingers do the talking whilst having a snooze.

So - BOTH are relatively imminent and you haven't missed them but you DID miss the news they were coming.

right - night! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 

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Sorry to be really picky but the 2c you refer to are actually models of the 2a. The brown colour at the bottom of the body represents the colour of the tub of the full size car. The 2c was an ally chassis and was painted white instead of brown The last incarnation of the 2a did have the full 2c bodywork but retained the brown colour. Incidently the chassis from the 2a became the 2d and 2f and the 2c became the 2e and 2g. cheers steve
 

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Steve - you passed the observation test!

I did of course know ALL that but wanted to see if anyone else did.

Oh GOD! I am going to bed.....


PS: WHATEVER THE DAMN WHITE CAR WITH A BROWN ARSE AND THE NUMBER 66 ON IS......... I WANT ONE as long as it is made by MRRC...

Actually. great info so seriously...thanks Steve!
 

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I always wonder what the big deal is in releasing the cars. I guess because I am not a manufacturer. "Either you're makin' the thing or you're not", I say.

I would love to have a 2F in my collection, though


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Once again, the Monogram-MRRC Chaparral is NOT a "2C" but a "2". The 2C is a completely different animal, the only modeled examples being:
1/ the very poor vac-formed 1/24 scale MRRC body from 1968.
2/ the very poor 1/32 scale Eldon abomination.
3/ the very nice LS (now ARII) 1/24 scale model.
4/ a lone 1/43 scale white-metal/resin kit by SMTS.
The sole 2C only raced 4 times and was transformed in the first of two "2E" in the winter of 1966. The 2C was based on a GM-designed alloy tub from an experimental car called the GS2B, designed by Larry Shinoda snd Bill Mitchell. This very car has now been restored and looks similar to the Chaparral 2C because the 2C was...inspired by it.

To confuse the easily confused, one of the Chaparral 2s received modifications making it appearing SOMEWHAT like the 2C, by adding fins and a moveable spoiler aft. This car, driven by Hap Sharp, only ran once in this configuration and won the LA Times GP at Riverside in 1965. It features louvers all over the front and rear fenders. The 2C was devoid of such louvers.

Calling the "2" a "2C" has been done for years, and the many corrections made on the subject do not appear to have landed. The cars are visually VERY different, so one would think...




 

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Besides the obvious fins suspending a moveable air spoiled, the most visually distinctive difference between the Chaparral 2/2A (3 cars built plus one spare unused chassis, all fiberglass tubs) and the Chaparral 2C (1 car built with an aluminum tub, the tub of which was used for the first of two 2E with high wings) is that there is no air scoop on front of the rear fenders. See this pic:



Compare with the "regular" Chaparral 2A at the same race:



But the 2C is in fact VERY different, being much lower and smaller than the Chaparral 2A.
The Chaparral 2 began in 1963 with "flat sides" and ran this way in 1964, then was changed in 1965 to a "Coke-bottle" shape with wider wheels (the very wheels the German firm BBS will copy and then fraudulently claim invention, as Daimler-Benz falsely and fraudulently claims the invention of the automobile) and became "2A".

One of the 2A was changed at the end of 1965 to reflect part of the 2C aero changes, but was later reverted to a plain spoiler:





I hope that I made this clear enough for all to grasp? I SERIOUSLY wish that the various manufacturers (ile MRRC but also including COX!!!) would get or have gotten their act together and not mis-labeled their models. Calling a Chaparral 2 or 2A a "2C" is akin to call a Lola T70 Can-Am a "T70 MKIII-B"...
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