NINCO Digital in 2005
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From where do you have that info?
Ooops, Sorry, Beppe, I sent you the info too late. :-(
Well, as far as I can guess from the press note, Nonco promisses 100% compatibility with standard slot, that means, you don't need to remove LC tracks for "old stile" race, just the "digital manager" and violà, analog track.
What do I do now? I was waiting to buy Scalex Digital, but after reading Ninco mail... it seem like some kind of anti-Scalex advertising, I mean, I can read "Wait!, don't buy Scalex digital, I promise you a better digital system".
Don't you, Beppe? (or somenoe else who read the note)
Well, as far as I can guess from the press note, Nonco promisses 100% compatibility with standard slot, that means, you don't need to remove LC tracks for "old stile" race, just the "digital manager" and violà, analog track.
What do I do now? I was waiting to buy Scalex Digital, but after reading Ninco mail... it seem like some kind of anti-Scalex advertising, I mean, I can read "Wait!, don't buy Scalex digital, I promise you a better digital system".
Don't you, Beppe? (or somenoe else who read the note)
Mail is in spanish, you can find it here: http://www.ninco.com/docs/digital_noticia.pdf.
In brief, it says:
"Ninco anounces its digital system to be released in 2005. This system will be compatible with old Ninco cars, tracks and it will be possible to run analog or digital races on the same track. No more details until the pojec be over". There's more text, but it's chatter.
In brief, it says:
"Ninco anounces its digital system to be released in 2005. This system will be compatible with old Ninco cars, tracks and it will be possible to run analog or digital races on the same track. No more details until the pojec be over". There's more text, but it's chatter.
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As Nep pointed out, it gives no details other than their commitment - it's obvious that they are still in the design stage and will not be providing any detail for quite a while - and NINCO are well known for keeping cards very close to their chest
My comments :
- NINCO track is by far the most common for clubs in Spain and Italy
- its (wider) lane spacing is more suitable to MCPL/Digital than Scalex's, and electrical continuity is good
- but I wonder how they'll get around Scalex's patent (*)
(*) in case anybody remembers, I'm the one who said that Scalex's LC activation system (lighting a LED under the car) was not patentable - but it turns out that they are also using it for lap counting
My comments :
- NINCO track is by far the most common for clubs in Spain and Italy
- its (wider) lane spacing is more suitable to MCPL/Digital than Scalex's, and electrical continuity is good
- but I wonder how they'll get around Scalex's patent (*)
(*) in case anybody remembers, I'm the one who said that Scalex's LC activation system (lighting a LED under the car) was not patentable - but it turns out that they are also using it for lap counting
I agree, Beppe, it seems to be in an early stage. So as I said in Slot Adictos Forum:
Let's guess that Ninco hear our comments, quesion is: What do you expect from Ninco digital?
IMHO, a good starting point is, more than 6 cars on the track, say 14 or 15, like Davic. Also, a decent lap counter/timer is a must, or some kind of DS compatibility.
More suggestions?
Let's guess that Ninco hear our comments, quesion is: What do you expect from Ninco digital?
IMHO, a good starting point is, more than 6 cars on the track, say 14 or 15, like Davic. Also, a decent lap counter/timer is a must, or some kind of DS compatibility.
More suggestions?
QUOTE Nonco promisses 100% compatibility with standard slot, that means, you don't need to remove LC tracks for "old stile" race, just the "digital manager" and violà, analog track.
Scalextric digital is the same, so they have said. Apparently you do not need to remove the LCs on scalextric either to be able to swap between digital and analogue. I have also been told that a scalextric digital car will run on an analogue system, without removal of its chip.
Scalextric digital is the same, so they have said. Apparently you do not need to remove the LCs on scalextric either to be able to swap between digital and analogue. I have also been told that a scalextric digital car will run on an analogue system, without removal of its chip.
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VERY, VERY Interesting. I figured they were working on SOMETHING. It looks like the old dBase/Paradox/FoxPro (for those in IT Land) or (Mac vs. Windows) battle again
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. Unfortunate that there is no standard. I would bet the chips are quite similar, but the signals, bits and such will be brand-specific.
XLot - I remember well your topic on Scaley patents. I would be VERY interested in a patent site or other info on the nature of the patent. Such should be available.
...It's a war, folks...but is the battle in YOUR interest or THEIR interest?
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Duh!
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XLot - I remember well your topic on Scaley patents. I would be VERY interested in a patent site or other info on the nature of the patent. Such should be available.
...It's a war, folks...but is the battle in YOUR interest or THEIR interest?
Duh!
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sounds great!
but i really hope this does not become a ninco lapcounter situation, we were promised it a year and a half before it was launched, and when it was finally launched this is what it said in the box QUOTE software available soon to make the system compatible with your computer this was around 3 years ago!
i hope the same does not happen with this.
but i really hope this does not become a ninco lapcounter situation, we were promised it a year and a half before it was launched, and when it was finally launched this is what it said in the box QUOTE software available soon to make the system compatible with your computer this was around 3 years ago!
i hope the same does not happen with this.
Well - looks like digital is on every manufacturers mind then.
By the time they come to market, I will already have a "package deal" that will be plug and play upgrade to adapt model railroad DCC to slot cars.
You will simply route your track, buy my "kit" that will include a Digitrax control system.
Sort of like a Linux distribution to get the most out of the WindowsXP PC you just bought...
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There - that's my press release...
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By the time they come to market, I will already have a "package deal" that will be plug and play upgrade to adapt model railroad DCC to slot cars.
You will simply route your track, buy my "kit" that will include a Digitrax control system.
Sort of like a Linux distribution to get the most out of the WindowsXP PC you just bought...
There - that's my press release...
Great news. I think we all knew it wouldn't be that long before Ninco announced it. After all, Ninco is good at waiting a little longer than the others then creating something similar without many of the bugs. =)
I, as I was anyway, will now continue building my wonderful superior Ninco track.
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I, as I was anyway, will now continue building my wonderful superior Ninco track.
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Must check the calendar - NO, IT IS NOT APRIL THE 1st!!!
If Ninco does make a digital system that will work on the old track and with the cars too, then with a converter to Scalextric . . . . ????
Just a thought!
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If Ninco does make a digital system that will work on the old track and with the cars too, then with a converter to Scalextric . . . . ????
Just a thought!
Heard it tonite at the club...was suspicious and then got on here to seek confirmation. My response? Very exciited, cannot wait. Best thing that could happen in my view because the solid competition will help ensure manufacturers strive to increase standards. Win, win situation for us all, more choice and all that.
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Unless Ninco come out with more details before Scalextric release their product then I feel they will have missed the mass market opportunity unless they add significant increased functionality over the Scaly product.
Anyway reading the mid boggling DCC thread then it just starts you wondering - the need for standards and the possibilities offered by digital. I've no doubt these initial incursions by the manafacturers will in a couple of years lead to agreements for standardisation and if they don't then it leaves the door open to other independent developers. The functionality in trains (I've no experience only reading the DCC and RC45 superb track threads) is already there and they have a worldwide standard - just need it to be interpolated in to slot cars. Power to the pioneers!
Matt
Anyway reading the mid boggling DCC thread then it just starts you wondering - the need for standards and the possibilities offered by digital. I've no doubt these initial incursions by the manafacturers will in a couple of years lead to agreements for standardisation and if they don't then it leaves the door open to other independent developers. The functionality in trains (I've no experience only reading the DCC and RC45 superb track threads) is already there and they have a worldwide standard - just need it to be interpolated in to slot cars. Power to the pioneers!
Matt
mtucker666,
Ninco says on their note that many (not to say almost all) of the spanish slot clubs use Ninco and, in fact, it's true.
Perhaps Scalex Digital will become a standard where Sport track is installed, exactly the same will happen where Ninco be installed...if Digital Ninco works.
About DCC... I think it's not a matter of communication, but how the system uses LC, all of them are incompatible. First point for universal digital slot is universal LC, then universal lap counter detector, and at last universal communication. But that's another thread.
Ninco says on their note that many (not to say almost all) of the spanish slot clubs use Ninco and, in fact, it's true.
Perhaps Scalex Digital will become a standard where Sport track is installed, exactly the same will happen where Ninco be installed...if Digital Ninco works.
About DCC... I think it's not a matter of communication, but how the system uses LC, all of them are incompatible. First point for universal digital slot is universal LC, then universal lap counter detector, and at last universal communication. But that's another thread.
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