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Ninco track and SSD chips

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#1 ·
We've got a six-lane Ninco track. I'd like to start some digital racing but funds are tight.

My idea is to convert the four middle lanes to digital using three staggered Ninco cross-overs with single lane straights on the outer lanes. I already have a number of Scalextric cars with SSD chips to get the racing going and six SSD controllers. Would this all be compatible?
 
#2 · (Edited by Moderator)
If I understand correctly,what you are trying to do is power Ninco Crossovers (lane Changers) with a Scalextric Chip. If this is the case it can't be done. In order to make this work you would have to run Ninco Chips in you car as well as have the Ninco Console to program the chip. Ninco Digital Track is energized all the time the Electricity is on, and because of this the two are not compatable. The signal for the lane change comes from the Ninco chip in the car when you use the Digital Controller . I have Ninco Digital and run all brands of different cars but they all have too have a Ninco chip and won't run on any other brand of track while set up that way. Hope this helps Robert.
 
#3 · (Edited by Moderator)
Another option is to put oXigen lane change electronics into the Ninco lane changers, and set up the electronics in SSD mode (if needed, thought it might not be needed)
That lets you keep the cars, controls, track, and everything, you're just making those lane changers compatible. Since you only want to do the one section of lane changers, it wouldn't be terribly expensive, as retrofitting dozens of lane changers could be. I believe 3 X-overs would need 6 oXigen lane changer chips. (one for each flipper)
 
#5 · (Edited by Moderator)
QUOTE (Robert V. @ 12 Oct 2013, 15:32) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>....Ninco Digital Track is energized all the time the Electricity is on, and because of this the two are not compatable....

@Robert V
Whilst you are correct that Ninco Digital and SSD systems are not compatible; constant power to the track is NOT the reason the two systems are not compatible. SSD track is also powered all of the time and SSD chips send a signal via an LED to a sensor to trigger the lane changers.

Signals sent by each system from power base to chip are different and the other system cannot interpret them - this is why the two systems cannot co-exist.

The reason Oxigen components can work with multiple systems is that they can be switched to modes that allow them to understand the signals from whatever system they have been set to understand.

@Graham
You could make your digital racing more exciting by limiting your track to 3 or 2 lanes. More lanes means less interaction and less strategy in terms of blocking and overtaking manoeuvres. It would be cheaper and make for more exciting racing if you limited the number of lanes (with the exception of adding a single or double lane pit lane).

If you took your powerbases off track and connected them through a robust connector you would be able to swap PB connectors and run either SSD digital or 6 high powered analogue lanes using whatever PSU you currently have.

One little tip - run your digital track in the opposite direction to your analogue racing - that way an accidentally triggered lane changer won't ruin an analogue race (sunlight or flickering flourescents can trigger lane change sensors occasionally).
 
#6 ·
QUOTE (Julian_Boolean @ 12 Oct 2013, 11:09) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Or just use track adaptors and Scalextric lane changers

Very true! In fact, that's what Slot.it did for a while, until their LC chip development was finished.
It doesn't look so good, though, and I doubt the analog racers would want those "squeeze" sections and different traction to remain during their races. For their sake, I think using Ninco lane changers is the way to go. And to make them SSD compatible, you'd need oXigen electronics.

I tend to agree with MrMod on his point of limiting the lanes, too. For SSD, since it would be limited to 6 cars, 4 lanes would be too much. But, that's just IMHO. I know that Graham has lots of SSD experience already, and if 4 lanes is what he wants for 6 cars, then 4 lanes is what he wants.
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#9 · (Edited by Moderator)
Hi.

First, for Graham: actually, yes, oXigen LC drivers do just what you need - running SSD cars on Ninco LCs, and you may run oXigen, as well, of course. I had hoped to see you in Gubbio last Saturday! It was a truly great race.

When we started development, yes, we used Scalextric LC, and when a Ninco track was used, a combination of adapters was used:
First we tried a series of: Ninco to 'old' Scalextric, followed by old Scalextric to Sport, then SSD XLC, then Sport to 'old' Scalextric, and 'old' Scalextric to Ninco again.
This however changed the length of the track piece to a non-multiple of 40cm, which is necessary to put these adapted LCs inside existing 4/6/8 Ninco layouts.
Hence, eventually we used Ninco to old Scalextric adapters with manual adaptation of clips (cut, drill, screw in...), a Scalextric XLC and one Scalextric short piece to get everything down to 80cm.
 
#10 ·
Actually Graham, the oXigen LCs are probably the only way to run SSD on Ninco unless you want to use adaptors (you'll need 4 per each LC which will probably cost you more than the LC board) and original SSD LCs.
The original electronic board from SSD will not fit due to different lane spacing.