Doug
Thank you for the review, nice job!
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As far as the car, I think it looks ok by itself (I agree with you on the lights) but when you put it next to the LMM version it looks more toy like... Unfortunately for me I don't have the LMM version and probably never will so one of these may find it's way into my case.
As far as the car, I think it looks ok by itself (I agree with you on the lights) but when you put it next to the LMM version it looks more toy like... Unfortunately for me I don't have the LMM version and probably never will so one of these may find it's way into my case.
The NSR version is infinitely more usable, the LMM version has a resin chassis so it for pottering around only. Size differences are interesting though no?
Like the format of the review, less hyperbole and gushing, more objective comment.
Excellent a thoroughly refreshing change!
If Carlsberg did slot reviews....they wouldn't be as good as swiss!
(Send the chq to usual address Swiss, OK?)
As for the car you said it all, up till now there is very little in the way of serious historic racers out there. That haven't had a HRS shoehorned under the shell.
If I hadn't spent up this month (and next month, but don't tell the wife) I would get one right away.
Still the black one looks better. I shall have to wait.
BSN
Excellent a thoroughly refreshing change!
If Carlsberg did slot reviews....they wouldn't be as good as swiss!
(Send the chq to usual address Swiss, OK?)
As for the car you said it all, up till now there is very little in the way of serious historic racers out there. That haven't had a HRS shoehorned under the shell.
If I hadn't spent up this month (and next month, but don't tell the wife) I would get one right away.
Still the black one looks better. I shall have to wait.
BSN
Received mine today looks great Going to set it up tonight and let it Rock!
It is nice to see an vintage car manufactured for racing. My view on this as a collector are the differences between the Sebring winner J4 and the Le Mans cars. Firstly to add to the confusion J5 the Mclaren and Donahue number 2 Le Mans MKIV car had a similar colour scheme as the Sebring winner. That of Yellow with twin Black central stripes.
So what is the differences between the cars visually?
Starting with the Sebring winner:-
1) Its bottom sills were curved
2) It had one Nascar duct on the passenger side (i.e.facing the front of the car that would be on the right.
3) It had two black small jacks on the front.
4) It did not have wing mirrors
5) Like the Le Mans cars front light covers were used during daylight hours to protect them. It started and finished the race in this form. The covers were painted Yellow to match the body colour.
6) I assume the nose was hinged from the rear and the tail was hinged from the roof (see the Le Mans cars modification 7 below).
The Le Mans cars were entered by two teams Shelby (1 and 2) and Holman and Moody (3 and 4)
1) All 4 cars had their bottom sills squared off. Which I think the NSR has.
2) All Le Mans cars have two NASCAR ducts on the front bonnet. Which the NSR does.
3) No jacks were on any of the Le Mans cars
4) The tail spoilers of the Holman and Moody cars had a raised centre section differing from the Shelby entries
5) The two teams differed with the side opening windows Shelbys had a siding perspex window. Holman and Moodys were further back in the side frame and looked to push open? (I am not sure).
6) Only the Holman and Moody cars had a grill above the door handle opening.
7) The Le Mans cars had their nose hinged from the front and the rear tail hinged from the rear
8) All cars had wing mirrors but the Shelby cars had them in different places compared to the Holman and Moody entries.
Also the Le Mans cars side stripes were hand painted and both teams used slightly different designs.
Did I hear someone (Brit Slot Nut) was waiting for the Black version of the MKIV? None of the cars were Black.
Just for info:-
Winner J6 1 MKIV Shelby Dan Gurney A J Foyt Red/White stripes (Only MKIV with the Gurney bubble). Numbers outlined in Red
4th J5 2 MKIV Shelby Bruce McLaren Mark Donohue Yellow/Black stripes. Numbers outlined in Yellow.
DNF J7 3 MKIV Holman & Moody Mario Andretti/Lucien Bianchi Bronze/White stripes
DNF J8 4 MKIV Holman & Moody Lloyd Ruby/Denis Hulme Dark Blue/White Stripes
I was going to describe how the 2 Shelby MKIV cars were in finishing.
Number 1 the winner mainly that there was some black ducting tape over the front of the car plus some blocking of the front nostril. The winner had a cracked front disc brake but this was deemed to be OK for the cars pace and kept qiet about perhaps the tape and card were use to divert air to this brake so it did not get any more damaged. The winner Number 1 also ran with its lights on.
Number 2 was in a worse condition its back had come off on the Mulsanne straight and had to be taped and fitted back on the body. It was rumoured that Shelbys' Snakeskin belt was used to help in this matter?
Just to say that the 4 barreled Holleys on the engine were enclosed by a clear plastic casing not solid chrome as the NSR. As far as the lights and covers shapes I am confused to say the least I have the MMK and must get a NSR to resolve the matter. The NSR is nearer in shape to me but I am still unsure.
Dimensions Height:- 38.6 inches (98.0cm) Width:- 70.5inches (179.1cm) Length:- 171inches (434.1cm)
Wheelbase:- 95inches (241.3cm)
Taken from Ronnie Spains GT40 book and the Ford that beat Ferrari by John S Allen and Gordon Jones
and my poor eyesight!
I hope this helps
Regards Allan
So what is the differences between the cars visually?
Starting with the Sebring winner:-
1) Its bottom sills were curved
2) It had one Nascar duct on the passenger side (i.e.facing the front of the car that would be on the right.
3) It had two black small jacks on the front.
4) It did not have wing mirrors
5) Like the Le Mans cars front light covers were used during daylight hours to protect them. It started and finished the race in this form. The covers were painted Yellow to match the body colour.
6) I assume the nose was hinged from the rear and the tail was hinged from the roof (see the Le Mans cars modification 7 below).
The Le Mans cars were entered by two teams Shelby (1 and 2) and Holman and Moody (3 and 4)
1) All 4 cars had their bottom sills squared off. Which I think the NSR has.
2) All Le Mans cars have two NASCAR ducts on the front bonnet. Which the NSR does.
3) No jacks were on any of the Le Mans cars
4) The tail spoilers of the Holman and Moody cars had a raised centre section differing from the Shelby entries
5) The two teams differed with the side opening windows Shelbys had a siding perspex window. Holman and Moodys were further back in the side frame and looked to push open? (I am not sure).
6) Only the Holman and Moody cars had a grill above the door handle opening.
7) The Le Mans cars had their nose hinged from the front and the rear tail hinged from the rear
8) All cars had wing mirrors but the Shelby cars had them in different places compared to the Holman and Moody entries.
Also the Le Mans cars side stripes were hand painted and both teams used slightly different designs.
Did I hear someone (Brit Slot Nut) was waiting for the Black version of the MKIV? None of the cars were Black.
Just for info:-
Winner J6 1 MKIV Shelby Dan Gurney A J Foyt Red/White stripes (Only MKIV with the Gurney bubble). Numbers outlined in Red
4th J5 2 MKIV Shelby Bruce McLaren Mark Donohue Yellow/Black stripes. Numbers outlined in Yellow.
DNF J7 3 MKIV Holman & Moody Mario Andretti/Lucien Bianchi Bronze/White stripes
DNF J8 4 MKIV Holman & Moody Lloyd Ruby/Denis Hulme Dark Blue/White Stripes
I was going to describe how the 2 Shelby MKIV cars were in finishing.
Number 1 the winner mainly that there was some black ducting tape over the front of the car plus some blocking of the front nostril. The winner had a cracked front disc brake but this was deemed to be OK for the cars pace and kept qiet about perhaps the tape and card were use to divert air to this brake so it did not get any more damaged. The winner Number 1 also ran with its lights on.
Number 2 was in a worse condition its back had come off on the Mulsanne straight and had to be taped and fitted back on the body. It was rumoured that Shelbys' Snakeskin belt was used to help in this matter?
Just to say that the 4 barreled Holleys on the engine were enclosed by a clear plastic casing not solid chrome as the NSR. As far as the lights and covers shapes I am confused to say the least I have the MMK and must get a NSR to resolve the matter. The NSR is nearer in shape to me but I am still unsure.
Dimensions Height:- 38.6 inches (98.0cm) Width:- 70.5inches (179.1cm) Length:- 171inches (434.1cm)
Wheelbase:- 95inches (241.3cm)
Taken from Ronnie Spains GT40 book and the Ford that beat Ferrari by John S Allen and Gordon Jones
and my poor eyesight!
I hope this helps
Regards Allan
PdL thinks there were two front nose versions also, he is checking at the moment. Thanks for the info Alan, it looks like the NSR will be closer to some versions than others although at the end of the day... it is a toy designed for racing so does it REALLY matter?
QUOTE (tjk @ 26 Jun 2008, 23:05) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Received mine today looks great Going to set it up tonight and let it Rock!
Which one did you get? Also the yellow Sebring car? Pics please, before and after setup!!
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Which one did you get? Also the yellow Sebring car? Pics please, before and after setup!!
It is a good thing to see the cars together with some pics from the net added as well so well done on that score. Personally I think the LMM versions lights look too small and the NSR looks a bit big but i agree if the surrounds were black like the ones in the pics they would be close enough. I also agree with the thinking this is a race car first and a model second although its a pretty good effort from my non discerning eyes anyway. Looks like a winner to me as with NSR stuff you know it will be a good car from day one.
QUOTE Any idea when those in the UK will be able to get them?
Simon
NSR have shipped out a very small batch (only 60 cars) of NSR 1022, the yellow version with clear headlamp covers so that countries outside of their home market (Italy) have some cars to play with
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. Those destined for the UK should arrive shortly. I suggest contacting your favoured dealer asap to avoid missing this first drop.
Further deliveries should arrive in the next 2-3weeks.
Sean
Simon
NSR have shipped out a very small batch (only 60 cars) of NSR 1022, the yellow version with clear headlamp covers so that countries outside of their home market (Italy) have some cars to play with
Further deliveries should arrive in the next 2-3weeks.
Sean
I'm not a closet die-caster and precise scale isn't my thing, but I will want to tone down that shiney chrome engine moulding (Scaley circa 1974) and paint the wheel inserts aluminium rather than leaving them plain grey.
Slightly surprising that these need doing given that it's a 56.00 UK pounds car (according to one of my favourite retailers), but it won't put me off. At least the parts look detailed enough to tempt me to make them look better.
I also note that it's not an 'evo' chassis, so the red NSR mounts wouldn't fit. Maybe the thought is that a classic car shouldn't go that fast.
@Swiss - how do the big track non-mag lap times compare to a reasonably sorted contemporary Racer - preferably one of the ligher-weight racing kit models?
Slightly surprising that these need doing given that it's a 56.00 UK pounds car (according to one of my favourite retailers), but it won't put me off. At least the parts look detailed enough to tempt me to make them look better.
I also note that it's not an 'evo' chassis, so the red NSR mounts wouldn't fit. Maybe the thought is that a classic car shouldn't go that fast.
@Swiss - how do the big track non-mag lap times compare to a reasonably sorted contemporary Racer - preferably one of the ligher-weight racing kit models?
QUOTE (V8Vantage @ 27 Jun 2008, 18:27) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@Swiss - how do the big track non-mag lap times compare to a reasonably sorted contemporary Racer - preferably one of the ligher-weight racing kit models?
It doesn't as it comes from the packaging. I like the way it isnt a screamer given the era. However, there is absolutely no reason why it should not be VERY competitive with almost anything you can throw at it given a good set up and motor layout. The chassis and wheel/tyre combo cerainly give the feeling it will handle a lot more.
For me the MAIN bonus with this car, in terms of saleability, is that I am certain it is relaxed enough as it comes (with the 20k motor) to give home set users a good time. As opposed to the Mosler and Clio which really are not right for most home users. I can see it being relatively resistant also, so a good opening up of the market for the shops.
It doesn't as it comes from the packaging. I like the way it isnt a screamer given the era. However, there is absolutely no reason why it should not be VERY competitive with almost anything you can throw at it given a good set up and motor layout. The chassis and wheel/tyre combo cerainly give the feeling it will handle a lot more.
For me the MAIN bonus with this car, in terms of saleability, is that I am certain it is relaxed enough as it comes (with the 20k motor) to give home set users a good time. As opposed to the Mosler and Clio which really are not right for most home users. I can see it being relatively resistant also, so a good opening up of the market for the shops.
Very nice review and I will be buying one of these when they are available stateside!
Love those MKIVs and I've been waiting for a 1/32 model of this car to race for a LOOOOONNNNNNg time!
QC
Love those MKIVs and I've been waiting for a 1/32 model of this car to race for a LOOOOONNNNNNg time!
QC
I went to cover a small Swiss event this morning and overdid the sun on the way back, no roof and forgot suncream. So I thought I would stay in the shade this afternoon and see what could be done to this Ford GT MKIV.
I decided to add lights front and rear, mostly to try and get rid of the huge chrome dome lights at the front and used BRM light bezels to replace the indicators on the front. Apart from that all I did was some paint detailing all round including the interior and engine.
it isnt perfect still but looks a lot smarter IMO, shows the potential that is there from using a full interior and engine bay as opposed to a flat lexan version.
Comments welcome either way as usual
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Driver, interior and exterior detailing paint up nice...
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Wheels look totally different with a coat of paint and these pics show the tyre wall decals well, I missed commenting on these (tampo printed) in the review...
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Engine bay does not look so fake when it is not plain chrome...
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I need to polish out the rear screen, it has fogged but that is odd because there is no glue anywhere near it...
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Lights, I went for 5mm and 3mm LEDs at the front, seated in the drilled out ones that are supplied. Not so easy but looks better I think, especially with the replacement indicator lights from BRM. I also edged the light lenses...
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3mm LEDs at the rear, seated again, in the drilled out lights supplied. I silvered the edges as per the real car and drilled out the exhaust tips...
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I will get you some night light shots when I get round to soldering the board in
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I decided to add lights front and rear, mostly to try and get rid of the huge chrome dome lights at the front and used BRM light bezels to replace the indicators on the front. Apart from that all I did was some paint detailing all round including the interior and engine.
it isnt perfect still but looks a lot smarter IMO, shows the potential that is there from using a full interior and engine bay as opposed to a flat lexan version.
Comments welcome either way as usual
Driver, interior and exterior detailing paint up nice...
Wheels look totally different with a coat of paint and these pics show the tyre wall decals well, I missed commenting on these (tampo printed) in the review...
Engine bay does not look so fake when it is not plain chrome...
I need to polish out the rear screen, it has fogged but that is odd because there is no glue anywhere near it...
Lights, I went for 5mm and 3mm LEDs at the front, seated in the drilled out ones that are supplied. Not so easy but looks better I think, especially with the replacement indicator lights from BRM. I also edged the light lenses...
3mm LEDs at the rear, seated again, in the drilled out lights supplied. I silvered the edges as per the real car and drilled out the exhaust tips...
I will get you some night light shots when I get round to soldering the board in
Great job!
I'm holding out for the covered light version, so I would be doing that bit, but the rest (inserts, engine detail, interior) are firmly on my list to be done when mine arrives.
Did your excitement make you rush to put the engine detail back under the screen while the thinned black wash you used was still giving off fumes? If so, that may have contributed to the misting of the screen maybe?
My comment earlier about 'contemporary Racers' was specifically about the 330P, 412P, 250LM, 275P, etc. from Racer that are from the same period (i.e. I meant contemporary with the GT40, not with us now -- I didn't know if that was clear...).
Since the RAcer cars use Slot.it parts and go very well, but have heavier bodies and inetriors, I wondered if the 20k SHARK in the GT40 meant that the two types of cars end up well matched. I'll soon find out (3-4 weeks) when my GT40 arrives anyway.
How did the little mounting posts in the body cope with the interior and engine detail being removed? Did they come off with them, or is it easy to remove those items leaving the posts in place, making locating them back in the same place after decoration easier?
I'm holding out for the covered light version, so I would be doing that bit, but the rest (inserts, engine detail, interior) are firmly on my list to be done when mine arrives.
Did your excitement make you rush to put the engine detail back under the screen while the thinned black wash you used was still giving off fumes? If so, that may have contributed to the misting of the screen maybe?
My comment earlier about 'contemporary Racers' was specifically about the 330P, 412P, 250LM, 275P, etc. from Racer that are from the same period (i.e. I meant contemporary with the GT40, not with us now -- I didn't know if that was clear...).
Since the RAcer cars use Slot.it parts and go very well, but have heavier bodies and inetriors, I wondered if the 20k SHARK in the GT40 meant that the two types of cars end up well matched. I'll soon find out (3-4 weeks) when my GT40 arrives anyway.
How did the little mounting posts in the body cope with the interior and engine detail being removed? Did they come off with them, or is it easy to remove those items leaving the posts in place, making locating them back in the same place after decoration easier?
QUOTE (V8Vantage @ 29 Jun 2008, 10:00) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>...Did your excitement make you rush to put the engine detail back under the screen while the thinned black wash you used was still giving off fumes? If so, that may have contributed to the misting of the screen maybe?
My comment earlier about 'contemporary Racers' was specifically about the 330P, 412P, 250LM, 275P, etc. from Racer that are from the same period (i.e. I meant contemporary with the GT40, not with us now -- I didn't know if that was clear...).
How did the little mounting posts in the body cope with the interior and engine detail being removed? Did they come off with them, or is it easy to remove those items leaving the posts in place, making locating them back in the same place after decoration easier?
Actually, I didn't realise the wash might give off fumes, I use acrylic and have never noted this before? Interesting !!
Doh!
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I miss read 'Racer' as a manufacturer, for general 'racer' cars from the like of Fly etc. Good idea that had not occured to me, mostly for the weight and detailing differences but well worth a try. Will test that out tomorrow.
Removing the parts from the MKIV - I lost one pin. You just have to be careful to trim off the melted plastic of the pins before pulling the interior and engine bay away. NO flipping them out with a flat blade screwdriver! I used a craft knife and found the parts fell off after that. The exception are the front light lenses which have to be popped out with a flat small blade screwdriver from inside.
My comment earlier about 'contemporary Racers' was specifically about the 330P, 412P, 250LM, 275P, etc. from Racer that are from the same period (i.e. I meant contemporary with the GT40, not with us now -- I didn't know if that was clear...).
How did the little mounting posts in the body cope with the interior and engine detail being removed? Did they come off with them, or is it easy to remove those items leaving the posts in place, making locating them back in the same place after decoration easier?
Actually, I didn't realise the wash might give off fumes, I use acrylic and have never noted this before? Interesting !!
Doh!
Removing the parts from the MKIV - I lost one pin. You just have to be careful to trim off the melted plastic of the pins before pulling the interior and engine bay away. NO flipping them out with a flat blade screwdriver! I used a craft knife and found the parts fell off after that. The exception are the front light lenses which have to be popped out with a flat small blade screwdriver from inside.
Next doors bloody chickens woke me at some ungodly hour this morning so I gave up settling back, searched high and low for my slingshot and old metal pellets before giving up and wandering out through the pre dawn gloom to my hobby room.
Once there I finalised the lighting and polished out the fogging on the engine cover...
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Yes, well now you see, IF I had bothered to take my LED tester home with me yesterday instead of assuming I knew what I was doing.... All the front lights would have been white
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Looks Ok though...
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The view most other makers classics will see...
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Under braking...
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Once there I finalised the lighting and polished out the fogging on the engine cover...
Yes, well now you see, IF I had bothered to take my LED tester home with me yesterday instead of assuming I knew what I was doing.... All the front lights would have been white
Looks Ok though...
The view most other makers classics will see...
Under braking...
Oh yes!
Before I forget..
Before doing any high speed driving with your spanking new Ford MKIV, I highly recommend hot gluing the spare tyre in place at the rear of the chassis (or swallowing your pride and removing it completely).
They have a tendency to fall out or roll forward and jam the rear wheel/gear.
Sorry I truly forgot I had done this as part of a slight rebuild needed when the car arrived in the post.
Also, if you check the Italian forums it looks like the Ford wont hold its crown too long! It seem the Alfa 33/3 from Slot.It is a Ford killer
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I don't understand much Italian but looks like a lot of inflamed responses judging by the number of exclamation marks and question icon
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and we thought we had a tough time being nice to each other
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Before I forget..
Before doing any high speed driving with your spanking new Ford MKIV, I highly recommend hot gluing the spare tyre in place at the rear of the chassis (or swallowing your pride and removing it completely).
They have a tendency to fall out or roll forward and jam the rear wheel/gear.
Sorry I truly forgot I had done this as part of a slight rebuild needed when the car arrived in the post.
Also, if you check the Italian forums it looks like the Ford wont hold its crown too long! It seem the Alfa 33/3 from Slot.It is a Ford killer
and we thought we had a tough time being nice to each other
Picked up mine at the weekend, stunning model
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Will have a try around the Pinewood track tonight
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Great review Swiss, did the Monkey help
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Regards, Paul C.
Will have a try around the Pinewood track tonight
Great review Swiss, did the Monkey help
Regards, Paul C.
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