[mtucker666]

I think Tamar is advocating a good European public health prevention model to mitigate risk, whereas us Brits are used to the NHS pick up the pieces model.

As an operational manager in the NHS I will be advocating a continuation of flogging the chips till they capitulate.

I think the ts030 we are running has over 90hr of competitive racing (even my team mates take the piss out of my allegiance to it) and the chip so far has done 12hrs if competition racing so far, 18hrs by the end of the weekend.

 

[tamar.nelwan]

Well I'm happy to be able to report that you will be able to flog your B1 chip till it does capitulate...on Oxigen 4.0

Tonight we continued our testing with 4.0 upgrades via the Boot loader for older B1 and B2 chips and SCP1 and SCP2 controllers.

Upgrading via the boot loader takes a bit longer than via the app as there are several in-between steps that need to be made to get the older hardware running on the latest firmware.
But we managed to upgrade, test and run 10 controllers (9 x SCP2, 1 x SCP1) and 8 chips (6 B2, 2 B1) successfully on 4.0 and ChronO2.

Actually the older B1 chips were easiest to upgrade as these work without registration. Earlier B2 chips work as well, may have been running for a long time without registration via the Slot.it app. But once updated to 4.0 they do need to be registered via the app otherwise the chip won't pair to a controller.

With kind regards
Tamar

 

[Minardi]

That is great news Tamar, thanks for the feedback.

 

[tamar.nelwan]

Hello Marcel, you're welcome.
Feedback is what will help you to improve 4.0 soft & firmware, and while we're at it...
..a hudge thank you, to the whole RCS and Slot.it crew for their work on 4.0 and the new RMS. Most appreciated

I'll be a bit "occupied" with other issues this weekend, but will post further updates after the Suzuka event.

With kind regards
Tamar

 

[LMP]

Does the person / device (phone) that registered the chip need to be present for the 4.0 upgrade to work? Or does it only matter that the chip is registered to someone, somehow, somewhere once upon a time?

 

[tamar.nelwan]

I'm not sure, but if MAC address is known, any issues about "ownership" of chips whether owner is present or not...
...can be solved during the Suzuka weekend by Maurizio who will have acces to the Slot.it Server and D-base.
An issue with one of the C - chips unwilling to pair due to the unavailability of the owner....was solved last night by transferring "ownership" of said chip to someone that was present at the club.
This was done remotely by Maurizio while at home, I'm sure he'll be able to handle stuff just as well when physically present @ Suzuka.

With kind regards
Tamar

 

[tamar.nelwan]

Dear (Digital) Slotrace friends.
Just a few words now... as a quick update.
I am happy to inform you that Oxigen 4.0 has been tested under the most heavy, stressful conditions during last weekend's Suzuka Double Digital weekend.
Both the GT3 races and WEC Free practice sessions on Saturday...and the full 6hrs WEC endurance on Sunday..were run on 4.0 successfully with 16 teams racing simultaneously on track.

There were the usual problems with some cars on loss of car control, unrequested pit modes or even rogue operation without input from controller(s), but these were all traced back to faulty hardware as in O2 chips, hall sensors or even as simple basic things as low battery level on SCP3 or bad power feed to the controller at either the socket side on the drivers rostrum or the plugs of the controllers.

Will try to post a more detailed update later this week.

With kind regards
Tamar

 

[fer226]

Dear (Digital) Slotrace friends.
Just a few words now... as a quick update.
I am happy to inform you that Oxigen 4.0 has been tested under the most heavy, stressful conditions during last weekend's Suzuka Double Digital weekend.
Both the GT3 races and WEC Free practice sessions on Saturday...and the full 6hrs WEC endurance on Sunday..were run on 4.0 successfully with 16 teams racing simultaneously on track.

There were the usual problems with some cars on loss of car control, unrequested pit modes or even rogue operation without input from controller(s), but these were all traced back to faulty hardware as in O2 chips, hall sensors or even as simple basic things as low battery level on SCP3 or bad power feed to the controller at either the socket side on the drivers rostrum or the plugs of the controllers.

Will try to post a more detailed update later this week.

With kind regards
Tamar

It is great news to be able to read that oxygen has a good direction. When you ran version 4.0, on chips and SCP you also ran version 4.0?????

 

[fer226]

What type of PC was used in the 6 hours??? Ram, graphics card, Usb port, hard drive memory…. ???

 

[tamar.nelwan]

What type of PC was used in the 6 hours??? Ram, graphics card, Usb port, hard drive memory…. ???

I'll check for the PC details on my next visit to Src Eindhoven. But I do know the PC was nothing special, regular old run off the mill Windows PC.

 

[MrFlippant]

Which more or less says that if you're able to run the current oXigen system, you shouldn't need to upgrade the computer to run 4.0.

 

[fer226]

I'll check for the PC details on my next visit to Src Eindhoven. But I do know the PC was nothing special, regular old run off the mill Windows PC.

We use a PC with 8 gb of ram and a dongle in a normal usb port. We have RCO2 problems, and I'm interested to know what features on PC you use to rule out this problem. Our PC in Chrono works fine. Thank you very much for your responses.

 

[fer226]

I'll check for the PC details on my next visit to Src Eindhoven. But I do know the PC was nothing special, regular old run off the mill Windows PC.

That's not my question, but thank you very much anyway. All the best.

 

[tamar.nelwan]

That's not my question, but thank you very much anyway. All the best.

If that was not your question...what was? Because I didn't understand the first part:
"When you ran version 4.0, on chips and SCP you also ran version 4.0?????"

Maybe this helps
To the best of my knowledge...to run a car on Oxigen 4.0 you need a controller on 4.0 and an in-car chip on 4.0.
You can run a car without the need of a dongle just like on 3.0.

If you want to run your car and controller via an RMS you will need a new 1Mbit dongle with 4.0 firmware and an RMS compatible with 4.0

With kind regards
Tamar

 

[MrFlippant]

And, honestly, pretty much the only reason to move up to 4.0 is to gain the additional features that will be available to the new RMSs. If you're just driving the cars around, I don't see that 4.0 is inherently better than 3.0 in any meaningful way. If I'm wrong, PLEASE correct me.

 

[tamar.nelwan]

Ok I had to read up and inform myself on this subject (one of the many things I've learned or improved on via Slotracing) but there are two basic reasons why 4.0 on the new 1Mbit standard is inherently better.

The 1Mbit is the baud rate as in how long it takes to send a certain amount of data. meaning that compared to the old 3.0 standard of 250k, Oxigen 4.0 is four times faster in sending the same amount of data.
The second and most obvious reason Maurizio provided, with the information that the manufacturer of the O2 IC chips will cease using 250k standard.

With kind regards
Tamar

 

[Ade]

With the extra resolution does it bring and end to the 1.8 second delay in lap reporting 🤔.

 

[MrFlippant]

Does that baud rate effect the performance or driving feel, outside of any RMS functionality?

And yeah... eventually, new hardware will be 4.0... What I'm not seeing is a specific mention of whether or not 4.0 hardware will be able to "slow down" and work on the 3.0 system. I'm assuming not, since slot.it says that it "breaks compatability" but I figured it's at least worth clarifying. Sure, old hardware won't be able to work with the new 4.0 dongle and RMS, but is it possible for new 4.0 chips and dongle to function in some kind of slower 3.0 compatible mode?

 

[MikeTman]

If that was not your question...what was? Because I didn't understand the first part:
"When you ran version 4.0, on chips and SCP you also ran version 4.0?????"

Maybe this helps
To the best of my knowledge...to run a car on Oxigen 4.0 you need a controller on 4.0 and an in-car chip on 4.0.
You can run a car without the need of a dongle just like on 3.0.

If you want to run your car and controller via an RMS you will need a new 1Mbit dongle with 4.0 firmware and an RMS compatible with 4.0

With kind regards
Tamar

Hi Tamar!

Now I also have a question: Is it possible to upgrade the old oXigen dongles (firmware V3.13) with the new 4.0 protocol or is it absolutely necessary to buy new dongles?

 

[MikeTman]

Dear (Digital) Slotrace friends.
Just a few words now... as a quick update.
I am happy to inform you that Oxigen 4.0 has been tested under the most heavy, stressful conditions during last weekend's Suzuka Double Digital weekend.
Both the GT3 races and WEC Free practice sessions on Saturday...and the full 6hrs WEC endurance on Sunday..were run on 4.0 successfully with 16 teams racing simultaneously on track.

There were the usual problems with some cars on loss of car control, unrequested pit modes or even rogue operation without input from controller(s), but these were all traced back to faulty hardware as in O2 chips, hall sensors or even as simple basic things as low battery level on SCP3 or bad power feed to the controller at either the socket side on the drivers rostrum or the plugs of the controllers.

Will try to post a more detailed update later this week.

With kind regards
Tamar

My second question: What experience do you have with the power supply for SCP2/3-controllers? How many amps do you need to safely supply 16 or 20 controllers?

Thanks for Info!

Greetings from Vienna - Michael