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For around the price of a single car, today I received a bag of very useful bits and pieces from one of our most well-known suppliers - pre-cut copper braids, ultra-flex wire, axle & guide spacers, a selection of different guides and an SCX Pro motor to see if it really is appreciably faster or more powerful than standard. Along with the bits, came a recent car price list and, out of curiosity, I decided tod re-sort the list into ascending price order. I have rounded to the nearest £1 and omitted any clearly marked low priced special offers, high priced imports and limited editions etc

Scalex £20-£30 (inc Sport)
SCX £24-£25
Carrera £25
Pink Kar £27-£29
MRRC £28-£29
Ninco £28
Slot.it £32-£34
Spirit £32-£34
Proteus £33
VMG £33
Fly £32-£46 (some much more)

I don't claim the list is comprehensive because it isn't. It's simply transposed from a list supplied to me and, where there is a big spread of prices from one manufacture, it's very hard, almost impossible, to place accurately in a 'fair' order.
So go ahead and disagree with me - that's what makes for discussion!
 

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Prices, prices, prices. I spend allot of time shopping around for the best deals using the net since there is no real source of cars here in Greece. One thing I've found that makes a great difference in the prices I pay is the shipping. From the U.K. there are several shops that offer good prices on some items but I've found that I can save several pounds when I choose the one that ships free to Europe. So don't forget that in the price equation here in Europe. One thing that I have found interesting is that I can get Scalextric cars cheaper from Spain than from the U.K. Why is that? Conversely, there are a bunch of FLY classics on the market in the U.K. at much lower prices than I can find them at in Spain. I can get real good deals from Australia, get them sent here and still save a few Euros. With the dollar falling there are some good deals in the U.S. but for the most part dealers have not gotten the shipping down to reasonable levels to make it worth while and if the Nazi customs in the north country gets the package as it passes through on it's way to Greece I can always bet on paying a king's ransom in customs. This does not seem to be true in all cases however. I have ordered parts from ProfMotor and gotten them at a good price at low shipping cost (they didn't pass through German customs). Go figure. I thought all this free trade bull crap was suppose to make things better for us little guys. Well, why do I have to pay customs on an item made in China for a U.K. company that is sold from a dealer in the U.S.? Greece doesn't make slotcars so why is there a tax? Who are they protecting with this tariff? I think it's time for a Bosten Tea Party here in Europe.

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Good topic Tropi!

Can I mess about with the list and put it in my idea of value based on looks, quality and running ability.

SCX £24-£25
MRRC £28-£29
Scalex £20-£30 (inc Sport)
Ninco £28
Fly £32-£46 (some much more

Carrera £25
Pink Kar £27-£29
Slot.it £32-£34
Spirit £32-£34
Proteus £33
VMG £33

It basically makes two groups. Those I'd consider buying any model from and those who I'd only consder if it was a car I couldn't get otherwise.

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Scott,
Just out of curiosity.

You would buy the audi from Slot-it only if it isn't available at the other manufactors.

Why?


Greetz,
Arno
 

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right lets sort this list properly as Isee it

Carrera £25
Scalex £20-£30 (inc Sport)
Proteus £33
SCX £24-£25
Ninco £28
MRRC £28-£29

Spirit £32-£34
Fly £32-£46 (some much more
Slot.it £32-£34
Pink Kar £27-£29
VMG £33

now, slo tit may shuffle up, and no i'm not being silly or playing silly buggers either!

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Yes come on Scott,

I take it to mean that you are saying that SCX cars are good value for money!

Obviously i'm hugely biased!

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SCX £24-£25
MRRC £28-£29
Scalex £20-£30 (inc Sport)
Ninco £28
Fly £32-£46 (some much more

Carrera £25
Pink Kar £27-£29
Slot.it £32-£34
Spirit £32-£34
Proteus £33
VMG £33

What I mean is that those in the top list are makers who not only offer great value, but coincidentally or not, are also makers from who (whom?) I'd buy a car even if it wasn't an especially fond favourite. For example, I bought the Scalextric Corvette because I knew I had no worries about it being a good driver, but I haven't bought the Proteus Lambo because I'm not that mad on it and it's that bit more money.

Yes, I think SCX are very good value for money, as are Ninco but not for the same reasons. Nothing is absolute of course, but here's a quick guide to the way my mind was working, including a few others so far overlooked.

SCX - Good strong reliable cars with good decoration, good performance without the magnets. Usually make interesting mainstream cars plus have a sense of fun and history (rally pit crews and classic re-issues) and great value.

MRRC - The Cobra and the Chappy were a quite amazing mix of scale detail, nostalgia, unusual cars (in pre-Cobra ubiquity days of a few years back), great finish (I went wow - literally when I first held a Blue Cobra in my hand) and not too expensive. New Toyota hopefully a sign they'll stick to making nice models of unusual cars at good prices.

Scalextric - Okay they never quite get the shape 100% right, but hard to knock recent releases. High on-track (domestic) ability, highest level of decoration and round wheels, which is, if the failure of most other makers is to be accepted, close to building a moon rocket in engineering terms. Again, all at a good price.

Ninco - Best out of the box handling cars bar none. Shapes usually okay if a bit fat (for better handling). Only criticism is the paint finish is a bit thin and watered down next to a Fly or Hornby car. Classics lovely and fun, GTs great goers, F1 cars with steering and those karts are unique and fun - all at almost SCX low level prices.

Fly - Right, they can be buggers to make go smoothly sometimes, but the finish is always highest quality, the detail ever increasing, but sadly so is the cost. Okay the GT40 shows signs of a troubled gestation, but what about the Lola? Classics unmissable for any 40 something Le Mans fan and irrespective of anything else they made all those 917s. In sort, the passion and enthusiasm of the owner is evident in both the choice of cars modelled and in the lack of clinical attention to detail. Flawed genius.

Okay, now for those I'd need to want the car to buy from...

Carrera - until six months ago I'd never even consider buying a Carrera car. Now I've got several and keenly looking forwards to more. Why? Well, they go a lot better, they look a lot better and they aren't too expensive. Not hard really, makes me wonder why they took so long to catch on. Amazing the same company can have produced the Sauber and the Ferrari. Only in the bottom list as the track performance still not as good as those up there.

Pink Kar - Generally you have to say a pit patchy. GTO nice with work, 2CV bloody awful. I'm grateful for the chance to own a Bugatti for less than £1000 the originals went for, but would be nice if the guide system worked. I have only two, GTO and Beetle.

Slot.It - I don't especially like the Audi so have managed to hold back. All reports suggest great track cars and I'm looking forward to buying more than a few 956s and moving them up to the top list.

Spirit - Illegitimate offspring of Fly? If so it hasn't inherited the parent's ability to capture shape and high paint finish, but unusual cars. Perverse logic since I didn't buy a Slot It Audi, but the Lola isn't that much of a favourite either but I bought it to see what new maker was like. A bit disappointed to be honest. Hope for better in future, but will only dip my toe back in for a car I like and can't get elsewhere.

Proteus - Thought about buying a discounted Perugua or whatever it was called, but price never got low enough. For some reason can't get my head around road slot cars. Odd since I'm happy to buy road die casts. Must something about movement/racing. Wish them no harm, but they just haven't invaded my airspace sufficiently far enough to warrant launching a 'buy it ' missile. Make a JGTC Supra and all my money will be theirs.

VMG - Funny how quickly you can catch bad habits, isn't it? The fourth VMG I bought was no better than the first, but it took me those four purchases to wonder if there might be a fifth. Had thought the BRM would be it, but not if recent pics are anything to go by. As the other off-spring of Fly you can see the family genes in the pricing, ability to capture a shape and fine finish. Diff also interesting (and on my cars so far reliable) but obviously left home without the micrometer. Shameful that such nicely shaped cars have out of scale drivers/wheels. Lotus 72 should be pay dirt for them, but won't be an automatic purchase for me.

ReproTec - Pure nostalgia means re-issues of old, long unavailable classics are going to be attractive, but at what price? Cotches Miticos gave me an SL plus four magazines for less than they want for theirs. The 911 is a great handling classic, but not at Fly prices. Methinks they looked down from eBay pricing rather than up from SCX, which is what they are after all. In short, great idea and bad value. Wait for discounts for all but essentials such as Abarth 500s.

Team Slot - Only got two - Lancia Delta and Matra. Delta fast as a SCX so willing to put up with finish, but the Metro 6R4? For blind enthusiasts only - literally.

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Scott, excellent summing up, very similar taste to my own.


Even though, I personally think you were a tad soft on Teamslot. A superb choice of cars, great to see a slot manufacturer build unique cars (not just build say, another Subaru) Group B for instance.

Trouble is, the shocking finish, the build quality is atrocious. I purchased a Teamslot Capri (kit form) & the chassis doesn't even fit the resin shell!?!
 

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Tropi

Your list seems about right for us here in the USof A except that SCX would be after Carrera as they alway seem to be a bit higher priced.

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Ecurie Ecosse's contribution is perhaps the best post I have seen here to date - it's a strong indication that it's time you got your personal column off the ground, Scott!

Must agree with mgcrazy's comments on Carrera - if USA Carrera prices (around $30/£18)were matched in UK, Carrera would automatically be top of almost anyone's 'value' list and make huge waves this side of the pond. Their new range of cars is highly desirable, imho.

Fly is the hardest to place, simply because their prices are all over the place, seemingly without rhyme or reason. I deliberately omitted their £20 models as they are a special deal, created in a reaction to over-stocks in the USA and not part of their 'normal' price structure.

A curious thought - if Fly made movies, would the box office vary the price of tickets, depending on how someone arbitrarily classified the 'value' of the movie? If a new release didn't do as well as expected, could we look forward to half-price tickets by not rushing to the cinema the moment the movie opened?
 
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