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Date: October 26, 2012
number of cars per entrant: max. 3
The track: app. 38ft. 3 lane wood track, latex paint, copper tape for the rails - magnets have no effect
the race: race will be run in lane 1 and 3, 25 laps practice, 30 laps race, the slowest 5 times will be deleted
the power supply: each lane has a seperate adjustable powersupply, 1.25 to 19V @ 3 Amp available
the timing: IR light bridge and laptimer 2000
the controllers: available controllers: 90/75/60 ohm parma eco, 45/35/25 Parma eco, 25/18/13 parma eco, 15/11/8 parma eco, i will choose the controller where the car is driveable as its best during the practice laps.
entry fee: 5$

Rules:
1) car must be approximately 1/43rd
2) max. width 50.8mm
3) no fluid may leak out, no grease, oil or braid juice may pollute the track, no tire glue or similar
4) teams may ask for a special voltage where the car should be run.
the standard racing voltage depends on the motor. I will run all car @ 12V, SCX and Carrera motors @14V, G9330 motors @ 10V. Again, if i get another information, i will run the car at the desired voltage.
5) car must have a body that looks like a car
6) no silicone tires, rubber and PU are fine,

concours de elegance: the best looking car will be voted by a poll open for all forum members

so i think these rules are wide open, so ladies and gentleman, i call you all out there to build your fastest, smoothest 1/43rd car for this race.
send in your trucks from the truck proxy we already had, just tune your stock SCX car a little and maybe blow the doors off all others, built something that was not seen before, it´s up to you.
Who will have the fastest car?
Small tip: K&D tires, Ortmann or JelClaws are the ones which work really good, foam tires don´t have grip on the flat latex surface.

The prices:
the first pick will go to the concours winner, than to the winner of the race, 2nd place concours, 2nd place race and so on...

list of prizes by now:
#1 Carrera Go! Porsche Spyder
#2 1/43rd 3D printed chassis for boxer (H0) Motor

list to be continued ....

have fun, Peter

 

[Lloyd.L]

Thanks Peter, I am working on my entries at the moment.

Regards, Lloyd

 

[Jaak]

Hey Peter,

That looks like fun,
it makes me want to prep a 1:43 car just to be part of it.
Absolutely sure i will not come close to the podium but that's not what i am doing it for.

Will have a look what i can find, have not unpacked my cars yet after my move to France.

Some questions,

Could you post some pictures of the track, and what do you mean with slowest 5 will be deleted?
Will posters, box stickers or what not be made and readily be available to entrants or mere mortals for a reimbursement ofcourse.
Inquiring minds would love to know.

Cheers and all the best,
Jaak

 

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Lloyd, great news, i´m looking forward to your entry!

Jaak, here´s a link to pictures from the track: http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e106/pfu...rack/?start=all

here are 2 pics:

what do you mean with posters, box stickers, etc?
"slowest 5 will be deleted" the race will run for 30 laps, the 5 slowest laps will be deleted out of the ranking and the remaining 25laps will used to calculate the average lap time. Reason for deleting: in this way i got 5 possible deslots and i can push the cars to their limits. or near the limit.

cheers,
Peter

 

[Jaak]

That's a fantastic looking track Peter.

Thanks for explaining the 30-5 thingie, i get it now and it makes perfect sense.

I should have referred to the stickers/posters you mentioned as an suggestion, my bad.

 

[Retro 143]

What a magnificent track Peter. I'll get an old full chassis Artin car tuned and polished up to send over.
Roland

 

[pfuetze]

great news, Roland!
looking forward to your entry!

i´m already getting excited about the race

 

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the list of prizes is growing:

list of prizes by now:
#1 Carrera Go! Porsche Spyder
#2 1/43rd 3D printed chassis including Fyrebox-1 motor donated by SlotCarExpress
#3 $20 gift certificate from ASCW (donated by Tsooko)
#4 $20 gift certificate from ASCW (donated by Tsooko)

thanks to Ted and Kihm!

i would add this to the original post, but i can´t edit that post :/

cheers,
Peter

 

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and another prize:

#5 Carrera Ferrari 458 GTE donated by AmericanSlotCarWorld!

also, there is typing mistake in the header - it should read 78ft of track length (24m) not 38 ...

 

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What i forgot in the first thread:
rule #7: ootb cars and ready (store bought) bodies (like Kyosho, Fastlane, etc) are excluded from the concours de elegance. Of course they will participate in the concours when you have done a paint/decal job.

 

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So, the chassis is not only the chassis, there are also 4 pcs printed wheels in the size of SCX DTM wheels, along with SCX tires for the front and JelClaws for the rear. Guide, axles and guide wires, too. So, that makes it a full rolling chassis.
Another addition to the prize pool is one school bus, still mint :b

 

[Jaak]

Heya all,

I have no clue what gearing i should get, going to order at Ranch design as i have no clue where else,
same goes for the wheel size and tire and axle diameter, Going with a vacformed Jaguar XJR9 body if i can find the rest to fit.
also would like to know where the car needs to be shipped to.

Want to make a brass chassis and use motor body gears rear axle tires from ranch design.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as a 1:43 noob i can use all the help i can get.

 

[pfuetze]

Hi Jaak,
i would go for the following:
motor: FyreBox-1 (Boxer)
if you want plastic gears, use 7/25
if you want brass/aluminium gears, go with 8/28
axle diameter 0.085"
.350"x.187"x.085" Double Flange Wheel for front wheels
.350"x.312"x.085" Double Flange Wheel for rear wheels
including Slicks (as Steve which one fit those wheels!)
you could also go with independent front wheels kit, would be a great choice.

I´ll PM you my adress!

cheers,
Peter

 

[Jaak]

Hey Peter,

Thanks for the fast reply,
i will go after those parts right away.

Cheers,
Jaak

 

[Jaak]

Ok i am in for 100% you can add me to the list,
with what? maybe a redone D Slot preferably a Scratch Brass chassis version if i can source the needed ingredients in time

Anyway will compete with 2 cars,
1 standard D Slot to see how it compares and 1 altered car.
If we need to pick numbers i love to have #77 and #75 or #11

 

[pfuetze]

great news, Jaak!
no need to pick numbers for this race.
cheers,
Peter

 

[masmojo]

O.K. after much Bellyaching, I DO have a car in the works!

I went to my "drawer" (which looks like somewhat like Bill's Drawers, but much deeper and with cars just kinda tossed 6 deep inside) and I culled through there for inspiration and I found it! A car I had bought a year or two ago with a sweet body and a carp Artin knock off chassis, so chassis has been pulled and a SCX chassis pressed into service, wheelbase has already been adjusted, body posts are being glued, and then I just have to do the mechanical mods!!

So, by this weekend, maybe I will have something in the mail!!

 

[Tsooko]

Hi Jaak
Glad to see you in the fray!!
I will be sending my cars from the ISP43 we just ran at Peter's and my Track. Let me tell you about the car that won and got the fast time at Peter's track. Peter has posted pictures of the chassis that you can look up if you wish. Peter's car won the over all championship! but that's another story!

It is a wire and brass chassis that Marty Stanley showed how to build on SCI. ( FT Slotter ) slightly modified.
I put in a 050 motor obtained from Kihm at Slotcar Express. I call it a V12. I don't know what the rpm rating is on it and Kihm has no more available. In chatting to him it may be similar to the D-slot " fast " motor you can get for the d-slot. You should be able to get one in France as Europe gets 1/43 stuff way before we can in Canada.
There are four left in the states as I ordered the last 5 from Chuck at ASCW. Whoever sells D-Slots in Europe should have access.
The gearing is 8/34, brass pinion and aluminum crown, from Ranch Design 3/32" (.085 ) axle at the rear and 1/16" axle for the front
Tires are a little special. I got 1/32 scale foam tires from Lee Gilbert http://home.earthlink.net/~speedshop/ They are the .0.40 "rims. The foam is already gluded on. Trued them to .60" and rounded the edges. Then I coated them with Smooth-on's liquid urathane, Reo flex 30. ( Foam tires do not grip on Peter's track ) I gave them 5 coats by rolling the tires thought a small puddle of the mix and letting it cure for a couple of hours then rolliing them throught a newly mixed puddle of the stuff and so on for the five coats. It turns out five coats was not enough as the urathane wore off at my leg of the series but it was enough for Peter's leg. The Reoflex has an unusual mix ratio so you will need a Jeweler's scale to get the ratio right. That is good as you can mix small amounts and not waste so much for each coat. The scales are around $ 30.00 off the internet. After letting the last coat cure for 24 hours I trued them lightly one last time.
Tires and rim final size is 0.60" diameter and 0.468" width.
Total car width is 1.98". Just under Peter's 2.00" maximum or 50.80 mm max.

The other car I sent had a flat sheet brass chassis and a resin cast body that was very heavy. The motor was the same as what is being added to the chassis Peter is giving as a prize. This motor burnt up during Peter's leg. My thoughts are the car was too heavy for the motor or the gearing was too tall, pulling a large amount of amps on acceleration and heating the motor. On Peter's car the combination of that style of motor with His very light printed chassis made his car scarry fast.

Hope ths helps a little.

Cheers Ted

 

[Jaak]

Hey Ted,

That helps a lot, thanks for that, will have a proper look at the thread there too.
Unfortunately i do not get any reply from Ranch Design so i am looking at other options,
just bought my first 1:43 cars 2 D -Slots.

I may canabalize one to make a brass chassis and use the D-slot components or i may if time gets really short try and improve the car and make a Brass chassis for the next proxy.
I will at least enter 2 cars, one a clean D-Slot and a modified car.
Still need to learn a lot of 1:43 things but that's part of the fun.

I have a scale that goes to 0,01 grams, those tires are a little more then a little special hehehe, nice brew.

 

[Tsooko]

Steve runs a one man show at Ranch Design, He'll get back to you shortly.
I usually order more then what I need for future builds. It's good to have a small cash of parts.
D-slot also has some softer tires you can get as accessories. Perhaps they may work better, Also Chuck at ASCW has urathanes for the d-slot made by K&D.

Smooth-on's Reoflex can be gotten in 6 different degrees of hardness the 30 is right in the middle of that range. I want to experiment with some of the other hardnesses but at $30.00 for one, it will be a wait to try the others. The softer ones will give better bite but may wear off sooner, I'm thinking and therfore require more coats or give too muck bite and roll the car over, at least on the narrow wheel base cars.
That is what my scale goes to. Perfect for the job!
Also I found the d-slot 917 was not as fast as the 962 because of the wider wheelbase on the 962. It's just got the weight distributed out better and like a cat, low and wide meant faster. These were on the stock ones and on my track. Just saying.

Cheers Ted