ProNoMag 2012

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pfuetze

Discussion Starter · Sep 7, 2012 (Edited by Moderator)

Date: October 26, 2012
number of cars per entrant: max. 3
The track: app. 38ft. 3 lane wood track, latex paint, copper tape for the rails - magnets have no effect
the race: race will be run in lane 1 and 3, 25 laps practice, 30 laps race, the slowest 5 times will be deleted
the power supply: each lane has a seperate adjustable powersupply, 1.25 to 19V @ 3 Amp available
the timing: IR light bridge and laptimer 2000
the controllers: available controllers: 90/75/60 ohm parma eco, 45/35/25 Parma eco, 25/18/13 parma eco, 15/11/8 parma eco, i will choose the controller where the car is driveable as its best during the practice laps.
entry fee: 5$

Rules:
1) car must be approximately 1/43rd
2) max. width 50.8mm
3) no fluid may leak out, no grease, oil or braid juice may pollute the track, no tire glue or similar
4) teams may ask for a special voltage where the car should be run.
the standard racing voltage depends on the motor. I will run all car @ 12V, SCX and Carrera motors @14V, G9330 motors @ 10V. Again, if i get another information, i will run the car at the desired voltage.
5) car must have a body that looks like a car
6) no silicone tires, rubber and PU are fine,

concours de elegance: the best looking car will be voted by a poll open for all forum members

so i think these rules are wide open, so ladies and gentleman, i call you all out there to build your fastest, smoothest 1/43rd car for this race.
send in your trucks from the truck proxy we already had, just tune your stock SCX car a little and maybe blow the doors off all others, built something that was not seen before, it´s up to you.
Who will have the fastest car?
Small tip: K&D tires, Ortmann or JelClaws are the ones which work really good, foam tires don´t have grip on the flat latex surface.

The prices:
the first pick will go to the concours winner, than to the winner of the race, 2nd place concours, 2nd place race and so on...

list of prizes by now:
#1 Carrera Go! Porsche Spyder
#2 1/43rd 3D printed chassis for boxer (H0) Motor

list to be continued ....

have fun, Peter

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pfuetze

Discussion Starter · #21 · Sep 20, 2012

Ted, the motor is my printed chassis car, the MCA Centenaire, is a stock mabuchi motor, with less than 20k rpms. Kihms motor, the FyreBox-1 has a much higher rpm rating. I have to push the voltage up to 15V to get straight line speed out of the mabuchi, while i have to throttle the voltage to 8V for the FyreBox-1 motor. Anyway, the size of the motors is the same, also the way how they distribute their power - under totally different voltage ratings.

Also on my track, the DSlot 962 is faster than the 917. Seems the longer guide length and weight distribution helps the 962. Stock DSlot motors work with stock DSlot gearing very well on my track @14V. With a good prepared DSlot, times near your best time could be possible.

Chuck carries K&D tires for the DSlots which are working simply awesome on my flat latex track. Most important point, as usual, is to get the tires very well trued.

Masmojo, looking forward to what you will come up with this time! Will you tune one of your former entries, too?

I will have to decide which car will run this race, hm..., the MCA again - orange or the red one, GT40 or 917. I think the 917 will get a chance to blow Ted´s doors off that McLaren, showing the those light weighted chassis can work well, too, on my track

cheers,
Peter

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Jaak

· #22 · Sep 20, 2012

Hey Guys,

Thanks again Ted,

I ordered a Kyosho D Slot Mazda 787 No.55 1991 Le Mans Winner.

And a Kyosho D Slot Porsche 962c LH Kenwood N°10 1986.

It could be that Steve will reply when he gets around to it but i do not have enough time to wait for the maybe reply,
any simple reply like i will get to you in... would have been nice, i am sorry to sound impatient but time is not on my side at the moment

So the way Ranch Design seems to work you will never be sure that you get a reply or that it is shipped fast enough i can not take that risk atm.
He has some very nice stuff, i wanted to use his VacForm body also to get a really low center of gravity.
(The McLaren) This was my shopping list:
CHSKSW36R Sidewinder Chassis & Rolling Kit . . . . . . . . . . $39.00 EA
.350"x.187" Front wheel
.350"x.312" Rear wheel
And the widest polyurethane rear tires possible,
with the narrowest slickest fronts possible non silicone.
That and the McLaren vacform Body. $2.00 EA

My wife wanted to paint the '52 GMC Pickup so i was going to order that too.

I was going with the kit because buying all the parts individual was only 5$ difference from the complete chassis kit, that then has an adjustable chassis extra,
always handy if the project totally fails to use as last resort.

I will keep looking for suppliers to see where i can get the parts i need to make what i have in my head, as of yet still not any reply from RD.

It is a good idea to order more then you need to have some spare ans also save on postage,
plus if you destroy something along the way you have a replacement.

Guess my brass chassis build will have to wait for the next proxy.

Peter,

Thanks for the heads up about the Tyre suppliers can not wait for them to arrive and have a look at what they are and if i can use one to make a brass chassis version without destroying it.

Cheers,
Jaak

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pfuetze

Discussion Starter · #23 · Sep 20, 2012

i got no aftermarket tires for the DSlot lying in my boxes. The only tires are wide artin rears, SCX DTM Porsche Nascar wheels and some Ortmann slicks that will fit the 3D printed rims (same size as SlotDevil Micro Chassis rims). But they will not fit the DSlots

i could offer you 2 rims with slicks - axle diameter .085", but they have to be glued to the axles. These wheels are on my yellow GT40.

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Jaak

· #24 · Sep 20, 2012 (Edited by Moderator)

Hey Peter,

Thank you very much for the offer, i greatly appreciate it

But i should have things sorted this weekend i think.

Will keep you guys up to date^^,
i think sending it should not cost more then a week, so that gives me a bit of extra time.

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Jaak

· #25 · Sep 21, 2012

I am very impressed with this D-Slot car.
Seeing some possibilities there.

Do any of you guys know this chassis?
1:43 Chassis

Looks interesting and has a good price.

masmojo

· #26 · Sep 21, 2012 (Edited by Moderator)

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QUOTE (pfuetze @ 20 Sep 2012, 06:38) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Chuck carries K&D tires for the DSlots which are working simply awesome on my flat latex track. Most important point, as usual, is to get the tires very well trued.

Masmojo, looking forward to what you will come up with this time! Will you tune one of your former entries, too?

Good to hear on the Tires, I tried some of those on my D-slots and they hooked up good for a few laps and then they got dusty and they were pretty much the same as the stock tires. But, my track is "textured" and not super smooth like yours. My track is designed to be run "Dirty" an I like it that way!

No totally new car, I don't like sending the same car to different races. Now if I had a ringer I might enter it in several races as long as I was not sending it to the same track. Part of my motivation for entering races is to motivate me to build new cars, so the idea of tuning up something old does not come into play. I am sure I would be more successful if I did race and tune and race and tune the same car, but I would be bored.

QUOTE (JaakBeentjes @ 21 Sep 2012, 19:27) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I am very impressed with this D-Slot car.
Seeing some possibilities there.

Do any of you guys know this chassis?
1:43 Chassis

Looks interesting and has a good price.
The chassis is a techno slot and it is well regarded, designed to be used under Die casts, but I am sure you could put a vac or resin on it just as easily. Cost is probably O.K. for you over there, but the exchange rate and shipping really jacks the price up for us over here.

Yes, the D-slots are good, so good in fact that I have totally given up on Carrera's, not worth my time.

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Tsooko

· #27 · Sep 21, 2012 (Edited by Moderator)

Aw!!! The techno slot!!!
I got one Jaak. It is very good and pretty quick on my track. A little awkward to put together, but once sorted out it runs well. One of my favourites. I got a review of it here on the forum. Has press on wheels and gears but the tires arn't too bad. It also has a stock SCX motor. It has plastic bearings that don't let the back axle rattle around too badly and is adjustable for wheel base.
Here's a video of it running about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...dczvHbWp9H1iLig

That is with a resin cast rally car body.
You are right it has possibilities. It could do very well at Peter's track with a light, low cg body and some urethane or Otterman tires.

Cheers Ted

Datto

· #28 · Sep 24, 2012

Hmm, I haven't heard back from Steve either...

Jaak

· #29 · Sep 24, 2012

Masmojo,

Thanks for sharing your experience with Techno Slot,
i know what you mean with postage

same issue here getting stuff from the US.

Ted,

Looks like it runs pretty sweet.
will get one of those chassis later on.

I am at the moment making a Brass/D-Slot Chassis,
Will be using the running gear of the D-Slot 962 Kenwood but i may need better tires.
I am not sure if i can get them in time though i have not found a proper supplier yet here in France.

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pfuetze

Discussion Starter · #30 · Sep 24, 2012

Jaak, for better tires contact Chuck from AmericanSlotCarWorld. He should have those K&D tires in stock. for sure with reasonable shipping costs, too.
btw. Steve surfaced in another forum yesterday.

Jaak

· #31 · Sep 24, 2012

Thanks Peter,

Will do

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Datto

· #32 · Sep 24, 2012

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Well, I'm not as far along as I should be, my wheels and chassis have yet to arrive, but thanks to Masmojo and Lloyd, I have 2 Mercedes c-9 heller kits. One was incomplete, but I was able to mold the side panels from the complete kit

Merc-render by Dattodesign, on Flickr

Here is the C9 with some resin side panels molded from a complete kit. Headlight buckets started, as well.

_D7K2813 by Dattodesign, on Flickr

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pfuetze

Discussion Starter · #33 · Sep 25, 2012

awesome chassis construction, Marc!
i´m already looking forward how this one will run!
great work on the side panels.

Datto

· #34 · Sep 26, 2012

Chassis print arrived today (needs some adjustment

) And heard the wheels are on their way. Maybe possible after all!

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Jaak

· #35 · Sep 26, 2012

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Hey Marc,

That looks like a well thought out chassis,
1:43 Floppy pans FTW

Here is what i have been working on....

a JaakWorks D-Jaak

Found a great supplier of tires and optional spring replacements for Kyosho cars at a very good price.
i asked the guy and the Porsche tires also fit the Mazda 787B

Slotcar tires linky

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masmojo

· #36 · Sep 26, 2012

Interesting Chassis Jack!

Always cool to see what idea's the guys coming across from 1/32 will have up their sleeves!

I think generally they come into 1/43 with an Idea of something they want to try in 1/43; You know, to "See if it'll work" and it's always Cool to see the results!

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masmojo

· #37 · Sep 28, 2012

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Fished putting together my car last night went to test it and discovered a serious problem!

IT'S SLOW!

will try a diferent motor, but I was hoping to mail tomorrow!

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pfuetze

Discussion Starter · #38 · Sep 28, 2012

no problem with slow, Mas!
Just wish the voltage up to 15V and it will run nice! I´m running all my SCX motors at 14 to 15V without any problems. They can stand this easily.
Nice car!

pfuetze

Discussion Starter · #39 · Sep 28, 2012

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just some night racing impressions from the Desmo ...
trying to get some training laps done after difficult conditions

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Tsooko

· #40 · Sep 28, 2012

Good stuff here!
Everyone seems to be getting into the spirit of the race.
Nice looking car Mas.

The photography you do is amazing Peter.

Cheers Ted

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