[dannyboy]

Hi,
I´m really, really tempted to buy one of these beauties, but I´m concerned about its size/scale

I haven´t seen one "live" and therefore I would like to ask you guys, that has one or seen one, if it "looks right"? I have also been tempted to buy a ProtoSlot-kit (which I think is 1/32), but the Racer just looks more right. But it is hard to tell just from a picture if the car is 1/32 scale. I know that the 330P4 and 412P is a bit oversized, and I can´t live with that!

Please enlighten me

Danny

 

[dannyboy]

Hmmmm........

Is there not a single person in this forum, that has got one of Racers Ferrari 250LM

Odd. I thought they were pretty sought after. Or maybe they just ARE too expensive.

Danny

 

[Russell Sheldon]

1/30th scale.

Kind regards

Russell

 

[dannyboy]

Ta very much, Russell.

That means, if I sat it next to a MRRC Ferrari 250P/275P, it would look HUGE or.......? Do you know if the ProtoSlot 250LM is 1/32

Danny

 

[ProfFate]

Hi

I dunno, havent seen it Dan.

I did just get their Lola T70s which are sized to fit the Fly chassis.

Anyway, at 60 bucks, you can buy a NOS monogram body which IS scale.

Fate

 

[GT40MKII]

Sorry if I wrong but I was under the impression that Mnograms 330p (Thats what they called the 250LM) was never made as a seperate body kit (together with the Ford GT). Pro Fate if you have one in a blister pack could we see it! I have blueprint copies of the original drawings for this car.
Regards Allan

 

[astro]

I built a airfix one, and I have seen a racer one in a shop, but not seen them both together. The racer one did SEEM considerably bigger than my one, but without seeing them side by side, it is difficult to say

 

[TSRF]

QUOTE Sorry if I wrong but I was under the impression that Mnograms 330p (Thats what they called the 250LM) was never made as a seperate body kit (together with the Ford GT). Pro Fate if you have one in a blister pack could we see it! I have blueprint copies of the original drawings for this car.

It was not. Prof is in error. The Monogram 330P/LM was only issued as a (beautiful) kit and as a "set" RTR car with a one-piece stamped brass chassis and a fixed pin guide. No body kit was ever issued for this car, either as a static or in the slot car blister like most other cars except for the 330P/LM, the Lola T70, the Ford GT and the Chaparral 2. The Chaparral 2 was also only ever issued as a "set" RTR car.

Despite its simplicity, the Monogram 330P/LM is the most accurate of all 250/275/330 LMs I have seen, and this includes the Proto-Slot Kit and the new Racer model. The Monogram model is patterned after the Mecom 250LM with roof extensions and the 330 engine from his P2. The car was metallic blue and white and ran in several US races in 1965.

Dok Pea

 

[attytwb]

Dok; What would be your opinion of the Eldon Concours 330 P/LM? I recently purchased a kit that is 99% complete and this past week picked up an additional body kit on a blister pack. I remember having the Eldon 330P/LM as a kid and I really liked the car. When I got back into the hobby it was on my list to re-acquire along with all my other vintage Strombecker and Monogram cars. Do you know of any color pix of the blue and white one you mentioned in your post?

 

[jnr_seahorse]

I have got the Protoslot version. Fantastic little model and looks great to me! One of my favourite cars.

Anybody know if I can get the wheels from the Racer version separately since I am not happy with the Ninco classics I presently have on the Protoslot.
JS

 

[dannyboy]

QUOTE (jnr_seahorse @ 23 Dec 2004, 11:18)I have got the Protoslot version. Fantastic little model and looks great to me! One of my favourite cars.

Anybody know if I can get the wheels from the Racer version separately since I am not happy with the Ninco classics I presently have on the Protoslot.
JS
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You should def. go for the BWA-wheels and their Borani-inserts. http://www.bwaslotcars.com/ I did that to my Ferrari 275P from MRRC and my 250 GTO and it looks stunning

It is a little more work (painting the hubs and inserts aso.), but really worth it. I also started out with the Ninco-classics, but they are just wrong with these 60´s Ferraris.

Danny

 

[ProfFate]

Hi

Hmmmm, confusion reigns. As I said I have not seen the RACER body.

I was confused by the nomenclature here.

The front engined GTO based car was also called 250Lm, and raced as a 275 and 330...Is this the car?

The rear engined P car(not P2, 3 etc) was also raced as a 275 and 330. THIS CAR?

the rear engined p based couple was also raced as a 250LM, 275 and 330?

ARRGH. I never get this stuff right!

The GTO based car body was a kit and is around. The P car is around and the rear engined P car was done as a kit by others than monogram.

Which does not answer Danny's question(I have all of them). Is the RACER scale?

Dunno.

So, danny, tell me. You could have just called, guy

Fate

 

[GT40MKII]

The Monogram Ferraris bodykits were the Ferrari 1964 series two GTO, and the open 1963 275P.
The racers version of the that I have seen 250LM is the George Marot belgium entered car that finished 2nd behind the Nart entered Number 21. Only losing this race by having a blown tire. The Monogram refers to this model as the 330P (3.3 litres) when in fact even after increasing engine capacity it was still called Ferrari 250LM. Even though the series two GTO is refered to as LM it was in fact Homogated as enough 1962 - 1964 SEries 1 & 2 cars had been built. That's what the the 'O' stands for in Italian in its name. The 250LM was not allowed this as it was a mid engined car (not front engined) and bares no relationship to the GTO. It ran in the Prototype class.

I have the Eldon 330P but do not think it's proportions are accurate.

I have a set of the original drawing/Blueprint copies for the Monogram 330P and feel this is the most accurate of the model slotcars I have seen.

The real car is small. The Racer would not be if its 1/30!!!

Regards Allan

 

[GT40MKII]

Just to help Prof Fate and me from getting more confused

The 1964 250 GTO second series envolved from the 1962 250 GTO (e.g. Revell. Pink Kar.)
The 250 GTO was never refered to as LM in real size. (Only Monogram refers to it as LM)
There was no 275 GTO I believe there was a 4 litre (330?) GTO series 1 done as a one off?
The original 1964 250LM prototype (after the prototype the aerofoil in the roof was done away with?) had a similar roofline to the 1964 250 GTO series 2. They had an aerofoil built in. Thats were the confusion comes.
The 250LM was basically a 275P spyder with a roof.
The P cars were all Prototypes and followed on from from the 1963 250P and 1964 275P both spyders. The 1965 275P2 Ferrari was the one with the high windscreen also a spyder. There was a one off coupe made of this model in 1965 and I think this went up in engine size until you had the 365P (P1) of 1966 looking like an evolution between the 275P2 and the following 330P3 (1966) then the fabulous 330P4(1967)

I hope I am correct? and this will clarify Prof Fates and my recollections of the Ferrari sports racers
Regards Allan