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*** Leo A Capaldi ***
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This is my review of a car that I purchased in the normal manner and at the normal retail price.

The long established manufacturer Team-Slot recently released models of the Lancia Delta HF 4WD. You might wonder what that car is - it was the first production all-wheel drive Lancia Delta and was planned as the model to sell in the market that built around the Audi Quattro and to capitalise on the competition success of the Delta S4. However, the move away from Group B into Group A meant that the HF 4WD became the Lancia contender in the World Rally Championship (and in lesser Rally Championships).

The first Team-Slot cars announced were an Abarth Test(Development) car and a Camel liveried competition car. The Test model looks great in images and out of the box. It felt quite heavy but my scales say 91g. Its a fairly good scale model of the Delta and sits nicely with the earlier T-S Delta HF integrale and S4 models. The roof-vents are very wide open and look at risk in crashes so I was pleased to find that I could bend them down a bit. The flaps are simply a photo-etched item glued on to the roof so I had to be careful to hold down the trailing edge as I bent the flaps down (or they may have detached). The air scoops on the bonnet are correct and distinguish the 4WD from the later 'integrale' versions. These scoops were also fitted to the concurrent two-wheel drive Delta HF Turbo. The model has a very nice radio aerial and it has an actual coil spring base. Detailing is good and the dash/instruments are as good as was promoted in advance (excellent) although the navigator's notes are upside down in one of the two cars that I have.

On the Test car the wheels are aluminium alloy and constructed such that the tyres hold the insert in place. Tyres need truing. The motor is mounted in an in-line pod with chassis designed to alternatively accommodate an angle-winder pod. There is no traction magnet and not really any provision for one. Plain belt-drive takes power to the front axle via alloy pulleys and the rear axle crown gear is an alloy and plastic combination. Motor is Team Slot TS12 Total (closed can), rated 22,00 rpm at 12v and 140ma with 290gr.cm The guide is a fairly standard thing. The motor position is offset downwards noticeably. Gearing is 9/27. Tyre width is 8.5mm and diameter is a touch over 17.5mm. Wheelbase is 77.7mm and overall axle/tyre width is 50mm.

I haven't mentioned the subsequently released road(stradale) car which is slightly different. The interior is fine for a slot-car but not the correct cloth pattern! An excellent detail is that the dashboard and instruments are devoid of the Halda Rally Computer and fuse box. The wheels are a bit of an issue though. Pattern is correct for the production car but are plastic front and rear so need truing all-round. Same chassis and motor arrangement and belt drive. Pedants will complain about only one exhaust tail pipe, should have two (I have fixed this failing).

On track, predictably the Test car runs better than the road car. In fact the Test car is quite good but can be better with a bit of truing and weighting. Within a few laps I was up to speed with a decent time on my Ninco layout. There is very little ground-clearance so the motor occasionally rubbed on the raised Ninco rails, but does not seem to have any noticeable attraction to the rails of my Ninco layout. Dynamic braking is very effective. The road car suffers with poor wheels and is more difficult to drive. As I re-placed the road car after a mild crash, one of the door mirrors fell off and in handling whilst gluing it back on, the other one fell off. Mirrors on the Test car seem firmly attached.

In summary, nice models with very good detailing. Track performance is good and has potential for more, but not in the NSR and Sloit.It category. Just as the 1:1 cars, the standard tyres fill the arches and there is a need to have wider arches to accommodate wider tyres.

Now looking forward to the full Martini liveried cars - hopefully the 1987 Lombard RAC Rally version but no word yet other than that there will be some Martini team car.

Leo

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The Delta has always been a favourite, very nearly bought a 1.6 HF many many years ago (complete with Martini stripes) but the insurancce man had other ideas.

It looks like a lovely model, not sure about the £50 price tag, hopefully, there will be a white kit version at a lower price.
 

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I bought two of the test cars with the intention of repainting one as the RAC Rally car - but will wait for the announcement on the next liveries.
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As it is I'll probably turn one into the Group N Totip car that Alex Fiorio drove in 1987.

Looks-wise I'd say that they are slightly under-wheeled and that the old rims from the Team Slot Integrale looked better, but these smaller ones are probably rounder!

Can't wait to run them somewhere representative - I could set up an oval at home but that's about it.

Really glad they're been produced, though. Too few Group A cars around at the present time.
 

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Yo Nick,

Still no word on full Martini versions. The sight of the three 1987 RAC entries was awesome when we followed them in line astern in Cumbria. As you say, the wheels are a bit disappointing on both cars. The Speedlines need a dark-wash to make the details stand out but I'm not skilled enough to try ... but you are, so any steer from you on that would be much appreciated.

Leo
 

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I have one of the older direct 4wd single piece chassis versions...in chrome, it's a bit bright on the stage!
It has one of the red plastic end bell motors with zero brakes, eccentric wheels and needs a ton of ballast if your rules don't allow modifications...but surprisingly pleasant to drive.
 

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The Rallye San Remo 1987 Lancia Delta HF 4WD in action on the Trio Track, together with two other competition versions.

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My two arrived last week, I'm not a big fan of the Camel Livery.
Agreed Nick , they look under wheeled/tyred inside the packaging, no point me taking them out yet as I've got no running track at the moment. Audio equipment Machine Display case Gadget Advertising


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Agreed Nick , they look under wheeled/tyred inside the packaging, no point me taking them out yet as I've got no running track at the moment.
Hi Simon and Nick,

You both are right, they should have been bigger for the Group A Rally Lancias.

But they are correct for the road Lancias (rim diam. 12.2mm and outside tyre diam. 18mm).

(Tyres on road Lancia 185/60R14H).

During the gravel stages of the RAC Rally 1987, Lancia used 15" rims and an outside tyre diameter of about 590mm.

The rim diameter should have been (15x25.4-2x17.3*)/32=13mm. Measured is 12.1mm, about 14", which was only used during the Safari Rally 1987.

The outside tyre diameter should have been 590:32=18.4mm. Measured is 17.7mm.

*Flange height of a J type rim is 17.3mm.

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Thanks Hub ,
I'll be on the look out for something more suitable. I have many pictures of the car, my own, I was there at the RAC Rally in '87, '88, 89, and others from online.
There are many different styles, I'll choose one I like
As you well know different wheel styles we often used on every event particularly the RAC because of the many surfaces that were encountered.

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Hi Simon,

I wish I could have been there too. The alternative for me was to watch it on TV.

It would be nice to see a photo of your rim choice, when you've decided .

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Hello Trisha, slot-car images only please.

Anyway that is the wrong version of Delta.

Leo
 
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