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Hi forummers,

I was wondering how you guys overseas (I'm from the Netherlands) feel about the pricing of the FLY Special Limited Edition S2004, with ONE Gt40 and one full color catalogue and one cd????


We in the Netherlands find the pricing of this set ridiculous: it will cost us almost 140 Euro (1 car, 1 catalogue and 1 cd and a nice box!). I've surfed around some English Reseller Sites and it will cost you guys between 99 and 115 Pounds, which is even more than we pay in the Netherlands (115 pounds = 170 Euro). In Spain this set costs 91 Euro!!!


Is there anyone with plans to buy this set?

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Damduin
 

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I have no problems with the high pricing of this item. The livery is a 'fantasy' - ie fictional, and not historic one. It is a good choice for collectors/investors, rather than racers or ppl trying to recreate historical race tracks. The recent miticos #7 from 1966 le mans made me sad though.
 

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Hi Damduin

Yeah I am planning on purchasing one - but not in the immediate future.

Personally, going to wait a few weeks, I don't think these will be disappearing off the shelves that quickly. The livery is an acquired taste and there is no escaping the fact that price wise, (don't like to moan) it is higher than anticipated.

Anyway, not going to comment further on the price, as it just results in the old/tired Fly cost debate and at the end of the day, Fly are not forcing anyone to have one.

One item that I will be purchasing shortly, is the brochure. Would like to ask, has anyone viewed it yet? Does it contain a library of all the cars Fly have produced over the years (pictures/photo's of real cars - not illustrations like previous brochures?) If it's anything like the Museum on Ninco's website, that would be great.

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well ive got one and got it quite a bit cheaper than the prices quoted ie 115 quid and i thinks its really neat
the car is an aquired taste but i think classy and the brochure is yet again glossy an classy
seems like theyre moving fast as a few places have sold out already
shame u just cant afford to put the car on the track at this price tho !!
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To my mind, no matter WHO makes it, no slot car is worth those top end prices.
The difference in price, depending on where sourced, even within the European Community, is something of a giveaway as to the avarice of certain parties.
 

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QUOTE One item that I will be purchasing shortly, is the brochure. Would like to ask, has anyone viewed it yet? Does it contain a library of all the cars Fly have produced over the years (pictures/photo's of real cars - not illustrations like previous brochures?)

I received the brochure yesterday (with the CD). The CD contains one photo of every car fly has produced until end of 2003. The pictures are of the model itself, but no further information (technical or about spare parts).

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Despite the best efforts of the likes of Pendle, MRE, GetSlotted and others, Fly's pricing in the UK has gone plain crazy.

Although I try to support Sean and Gary whenever possible, I no longer purchase any Fly or GB Track items from UK retailers because of this.

This set costs €98.97 from Diber in Spain, which £65.33. As Damduin has mentioned, I've seen it as low as €91.00 (£60.06) in Europe. Gaugemaster's price is £105.00.

How can you justify a difference of £40.00?

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Lets not forget that prices of all items (not just slot cars) vary from country to country. There are lots of reasons for these price diferences, the majority of which are not unique to slot cars.

When you do compare prices, you need to compare like to like. The Gaugemaster price quoted is the recommended retail price in the UK, I would imagine that the price quoted from Diber is discounted from the recommended retail price in Spain.

To have this product delivered to the UK from Diber in Spain would actually cost around £78, which works out at about £11 cheaper than us. Still a noticeable difference, but not as much as the difference quoted.

Prices also vary by product. If you performed a similar comparison with the recent C72 Ferrari 512S, our prices are actually cheaper than Diber. I wonder if they are discussing this on a Spanish forum, complaining about high prices in Spain?

My apologies if this sounds like an advertisement as this wasn't intented. I just wanted to point out that Fly prices in the UK are not necessarily the 'rip off' that is being suggested.

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Jon Slot City -
No problem of it sounding like an advertisement - it's a very interesting subject.
It seems as though 'someone' sets the RRP so high that there is a very large area for negotiation available. Basically, if people are shortsighted enough to pay the 'full' price, then let them. But if they don't sell well, then there is room to drop it considerably without actually incurring a loss on the retailer. From the retail point of view, this can look like an attractive option, but I think it breeds a good deal of resentment/sales resistance in many purchasers and a marked reluctance to buy that manufacturer's product.

Of course there will always be a number of well-heeled collectors who will jump in and pay maximum price to assure their collection. But one would suspect that even these people will eventually realise that they don't actually have to pay as much as they often do. Or maybe they are so well-heeled that they simply don't care how much they pay . . . I think there are a few of these about and they assist, pehaps unwittingly almost certainly uncaringly, in distorting the perceived value of 'slot cars with a fancy paint job'.
 

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Hi Jon

All valid points, however, in my particular case, I live in Dubai, so postage costs are the same whether from the UK or from Spain. For me, this particular item is £40.00 cheaper if I order it from Diber.

Of course, if you are able to supply it at the same price, I will immediately send you an order!


Seriously, I really appreciate what the retailers do in terms of trimming their margins as much as they can afford to, in order to give us enthusiasts the best possible deal.


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If you performed a similar comparison with the recent C72 Ferrari 512S, our prices are actually cheaper than Diber. I wonder if they are discussing this on a Spanish forum, complaining about high prices in Spain?
The price at Slot City is 29,99 pound. That;s 45,49 Euro
The price at Diber is 39,58 Euro

Both prices found at both web sites.

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I wonder if they are discussing this on a Spanish forum, complaining about high prices in Spain?

Which high prices?

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Most UK dealers discount the prices of Fly cars when compared with Gaugemasters RRP.
It would be very easy for myself and other dealers to offer cars at cheaper prices if i was only to carry the latest selection of cars without stocking any spares or accessories, not to mention a large back catalogue of cars. This is how many dealers, in particular those who operate without premises using internet auction sites manage to sell cars at cheaper prices. However, will they offer you the back up service if you have a problem with a faulty car or require a replacement part? I doubt it.
We carry every single spare part available for Fly and many other manufacturers, this would not be possible if we sold cars at little or no profit. We also carry a huge back catalogue of older Fly cars. I sometimes wonder if it would not be easier to sit at a computer, listing cars on ebay, i certainly wouldn't have the shop overheads or staff wages to pay . I'm sure it would be easier and possibly more profitable but i'm into this hobby for better reasons than just selling something for a quick buck.
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QUOTE QUOTE
If you performed a similar comparison with the recent C72 Ferrari 512S, our prices are actually cheaper than Diber. I wonder if they are discussing this on a Spanish forum, complaining about high prices in Spain?
The price at Slot City is 29,99 pound. That;s 45,49 Euro
The price at Diber is 39,58 Euro

Both prices found at both web sites.

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I wonder if they are discussing this on a Spanish forum, complaining about high prices in Spain?

Which high prices?

Gerard

Please check your facts before posting.

We do not charge for shipping, which Diber do. When you include their shipping charges you will see that our prices, including delivery to Spain, the UK (or anywhere else in Europe) are cheaper. So it would be the higher prices at Diber that I was talking about.

I would also like to endorse Seans comments 100%. You won't find many discounters offering spares or much in the way of after sales service.

Jon,
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