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A guy on SlotBlog was asking about a Riko car of his and if it could have indeed been a Riko, so I went looking in my catalogs, and found these two pages in the 1969-70 catalog... thought you might enjoy taking a look at your lost youths, and I hope you will contribute your lown little bits of Riko to this survey... I have what I assumed was an Iso Grifo in the super-series kits, but it really doesn't look like the Russkit Iso, for instance - photos to come. Anybody have one of those Riko 1/24 kits?

Any Riko stories?



 

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I dragged out a couple of the Riko kits I've picked up on ebay, starting with these two. They came with two cards, for the Ferrari 312 and an Escort, but I assume the white one is another CanAm car - not sure which one! Somebody tried to do staggered intake stacks on it, if that's any hint... Must have been put together by a kid too, judging by the economy chassis and the use of a Scalex or Airfix gear, instead of a better, more appropriate one - but with a very modern CanAm body!







Here's the car with the "super-series" chassis I picked up a few years ago. I had assumed it was an Iso, but doesn't really look like the Iso Grifo (Griffo) that's listed - maybe an Iso-Rivolta? Any Italian experts out there? Floppy body mounts (but soldered tight) so from at least 1968 I assume...





The cars in the earlier catalogs mostly seem to be those in the Marusan line (some released by Atlas in the USA): Brabham F1, Ford GT, Caravelle, etc.

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Thanks a lot, I see lots of stuff there I must get...like the H16 BRM. I have a 1:32 vacform bodied Ford Escort with a Riko "competition series" chassis&motor in a cardboard box marked "GT Models"...the question is, how on earth can you tell a GT Models Escort from a Riko one?
 

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Hi /don
Its all coming back to me now ,well some of it
The white can am body is an autocoast Ti 22
The iso I think is an iso grifo but a road going one rather than the racer which also waqs called the bizzarini occasionally
I am pretty sure that howard taylor of taylor made fame did the bodies ,but whether they were all from his standard list or whether he made extra ones for riko i dont know ,perhaps a look at his list from around 1968/69 might answer that one
The basic kits(the ones with the chassis like a monogram car ) came fitted with a brass contrate gear of quite coarse pitch and there was a steel pinion fitted to the motor so quite why those you had were fitted with toy gears I dont know other than the fact that the metal ones did have a habit of wearing out
I seem to remember when they were first out they cost 19/11d which for those of you born after 1971 is a smidge less than a pound
We did briefly try and run them as a club class at north london but they were pretty dire and didn,t last long
When we used to run the track at the model engineers exhibition riko gave us a shedload of those kits for public running I mean aroung 60 or 70 .and by the end of the week the exhibition was over they were all trashed ,despite having at least one person fixing them the whole time, some of the things that went on you wouldn,t believe but that is a entirely a different story
any one out there do any public running on the ECRAb Track at the exhibition ?

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Awww Lloyd! Teddington Model Shop! My spiritual home (it's an Indian restaurant now, by the way... I spose if it had to change to something, that's the best alternative). I'm playing keepy-uppy on two forums now with these Riko kits. According to my old Model Cars mags, the kits didn't come out until 1968 (announced in the May issue). We loved 'em for about a year before the technology moved on...

You got a Ti22 there, by the way Don, the white CanAm, I mean. I have an obscenely abused original GT Models shell somewheres...
 

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R662 Iso Grifo from 40 years ago



(Well that is what it said on the card that is now long gone...). This only survived because I wasn't ecstatic about it and replaced it with a custom Beetle body.
 

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I have quite a lot of original chassis that have broken guides, is anyone doing a pattern replacement?
 

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Not that I know of Riko, but if you go see the rapid prototyping guys at your company with a digital datafile they can probably run off a couple dozen...

Thanks for confirming the model number by the way, and to Tony & John & George & Ringo for confirming the TI-22...

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Well I could use the 3D scanner, but I'm not sure it will get the cut-out detail. Integrity in the latest generation 3D printers is very good though so it would have the necessary strength. So the idea is probably workable, would be easier if someone was still making them. As most RiKo stuff was a copy of something elsewhere do you know if the same guides were used by anyone else? Thinking Revell...
 

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I just took a look at a couple of my Rikos - one of the guides looks like a Revell, but the other two more like the small Monogram - but those aren't so easy to find!

I have a friend here who's printed some 3D guides and they're not bad at all...

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If memory serves me right,Riko also did an anglewinder chassis that came with a fibreglass shell. I think there was a Mclaren M8A and a Gulf-Mirage GT amongst others-anyone else remember these?
TED...
 

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We used the Competition Series kits as our club class at our school club.

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ted I have an angle winder ,they came with a rikowhip 16d and a vac form body ,sorry I cant post a pic as all my stuff is still in storage .but I think theres a pic on my scratch buit .com page
 

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Three cheers for Riko, but I'd suggest that anyone finding a Riko chassied car not take the body as necessarily original. As one or two people have said, the cars could be fragile in competition.
Anyway, good to see interest in the old Riko kits. I suspect that, in the late 1960s and the early 70s, many slot-car enthusiasts in the UK progressed beyond Scalextric, MRRC, Airfix and VIP through the Competition kits. They were simple and wouldn't have deserved their name for very long, but they were cheap, costing just £1.07 in an early 70s pricelist I have, and people were still buying them then. I've seen a comment in one SlotForum thread where someone recalled enthusiastically saving his pocket money as a teenager to buy them.
I was well beyond my teens by then, but they were a great way to assemble a stable of racing sports and GT cars. I built about 10.
One attraction was that the parts were interchangeable with other kits and parts on the market from the US and Japan, unlike most of the proprietary British products. They could be modified easily too for can-end drive motors such as 16Ds and 13UOs by making up one new mounting bracket, though I forget exactly how I drilled the large hole.
From memory, they came in a blister pack with the body as the plastic blister. I may be wrong (again) but the contrate may have been a pressed steel one. My surviving cars all have a variety of brass and plastic contrates, so I'm not sure.
The thin chassis metal was probably rather hard on the guide stems. Again, mine have a variety. It shouldn't be hard to find a replacement.
My early 70s kits came with the MkII Rikochet, but presumably the earlier kits had the MkI and it was a good motor at the price.
There were no wheel inserts nor, I think, driver-cockpit panels, but they were easy enough to add and there was no drudgery in getting a good paint finish on the clear vac bodies, unlike today's favoured hard shells.
One oddity in the instructions was that the first recommended way of fitting bodies to chassis was to leave clear plastic between the wheel centres, bend it inwards and bolt it to the chassis. I did a few that way, but it involved extra bolts with locknuts or soldering in captive nuts, and it could be difficult to get the body to sit precisely on the chassis. Also not conducive to quick repairs inside. However, the chassis did have flanges for screw mounting on wooden blocks, and of course for side mounting one could bolt on metal brackets or solder on brass tubes with captive nuts. All a good learning process.
I don't know the source of the standard bodies. I bought others (Betta, SP, etc) and switched around a lot, and I'm sure others did likewise, so shells found on Riko chassis may not be originals. The pics below are therefore not necessarily of Riko shells, but they show the sort of thing that hundreds, perhaps thousands, of guys would have been doing with their one-pound kits 40 or so years ago.
I did have one of the Super Series with the more sophisticated chassis - droparm and sidepans - and 16D motor. I used it in one of my best creations, a Betta Alfa T33/3, but alas it has disappeared. The split front axle had a brass sleeve connecting the halfshafts in the centre, and I still have a couple unused in accessory packs.
There were also more advanced chassis and a vast array of components.
Someone above was interested in the "Precision" kits, especially the H16 BRM. I don't know them, but I'd guess they too were vac bodied. Anyone know?
Anyway, my thanks to Riko, Racewell Accessories and Richard Kohnstam in Hemel Hempstead.
The cars below are mostly as they were in the early 1980s, pulled out of storage last year, so I make no claim to them being perfect specimens. Others on Riko Competition chassis are or have been a Ford Mk IV, a Salzburg 917K, a McLaren GT coupe and a Mirage Cosworth, though perhaps not all originally.
Rob J




 

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My memories of racing RiKo cars are wheel spinning monsters with the smell of burning shellac from the Scalextric throttles barely coping with the current. They were OK on part throttle, but as you approached max speed the last few turns on the resistor winding could not cope. Also the guides were a bit thick and would cause problems at well worked rail joints. But they were FANTASTIC to an 12 year old just discovering what engineering was about. I am sure it was this that started me off on my engineering career. My original two cars turned into various different things over time. A VW beetle with flared wheel arches (heavily modded airfix kit) in brown metallic (cutting edge at the time!) paint lost control in a Santa Pod style drag race at a friends house and hit the stacked up cars at the side of the track at the end at what must have been close to the claimed top speed of 30 feet per second. His mother was finding bits of it weeks later.

The bodies were part of the blister - stapled to the cards that Don showed. Later ones came with two bits of aluminium to use as mounting brackets for the bodies - that was the type that I originally had. Yes the contrate was pressed steel, and far harder than the soft brass pinions on the RiKoRocket motors that I had, so they just cut through the pinion over time. I'll take some pictures of the stuff that I have accumulated, I think I have bits for about a dozen cars, but sadly none of them are running at the moment.
 

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If anyone wants to restore their old Riko kits, by the way, I have repopped quite a few of those bodies, and have several others that would be appropriate.
 

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In one of the period English catalogs I have, it says that Riko and Taylormade bodies are interchangeable - I can scan that if anybody wants to see it.

I like that yellow Lola T70 GT of yours Rob; and great story about the drag race Riko!

Kind of like moving up from Strombecker to Monogram in the USA... a natural evolutionary process!
 

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Ey Up Guys,

Did we ALL put Airfix VW Beetles on them then ??!!.

My brothers and I had all these types, including one of the Rikominx F1, although mostly the original 19/11 kits.

And those days did indeed lead me into my career in Engineering like RikoRocket, and I suspect many others !!.

You know we had no computers or playstations, I was re-winding motors at 7yrs old !!.

Those were the days, grump grump.

vbr Chris A.
 
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