Astonishing fastest lap from Steve. The best race of the night was between Foz and Martin in one of the finals. Neck and neck till the end!
Round 2 Race 5 Saloons
Well a week has passed with a change of class we are once again at the club room for our Saloon class with 15 drivers attending.
We had some very close racing and very fast and slow cars.
After 15 heats and five finals the results are as follows:-
1. Steve 25 + 1pt for fastest lap and class record 5.898 secs Well done Steve
2. James 23
3. Ian 21
4. Alan 20
5. Ken 19
6. Mike 18
7. Dave 17
8. Keith 16
9. Tone 15
10. Fozz 14
11. Martin 13
12. Luke 12
13. Simon 11
14. Dennis 10
15. Kyran 9
Next week is round 2 of our American Muscle
Have a good week and hope to see you all there
We had some very close racing and very fast and slow cars.
After 15 heats and five finals the results are as follows:-
1. Steve 25 + 1pt for fastest lap and class record 5.898 secs Well done Steve
2. James 23
3. Ian 21
4. Alan 20
5. Ken 19
6. Mike 18
7. Dave 17
8. Keith 16
9. Tone 15
10. Fozz 14
11. Martin 13
12. Luke 12
13. Simon 11
14. Dennis 10
15. Kyran 9
Next week is round 2 of our American Muscle
Have a good week and hope to see you all there
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Good to see the new members battling it out, so well done to them.
Steve was on fire yet again last night with some cracking lap times and a new lap record for the saloon class - well done mate.
Steve was on fire yet again last night with some cracking lap times and a new lap record for the saloon class - well done mate.
Great nights racing ! Some really close battles and an amazing final between Fozz and Martin ! Bit annoyed steve smashed my lap record but we go again next week 💪
See you for american muscle 💪💪
Herbie
See you for american muscle 💪💪
Herbie
The James, Steve (and AndyT) show.
With 2 rounds complete a picture emerges of the quickest drivers, and cars at Presto Park from the fastest lap data:
The Spirit Silhoutte 406 used by Herbie and Steve has similiar dimmensions to a GT3 car, and both classes are anglewinder 23k long can motors, so it should be NO surprise as the rules are the same for both classes, the results will be the same. The class average fastest lap for the Saloon class is 5.993 seconds, and for the GT3 class 5.981 a delta of just over a 1/100th second.
With the recipe perfected for the Saloon/GT3 class, it's a very small step to the Sports/GT class and the same build configuration with a more powerful motor which provides the lap time boost to 5.884 seconds, about 1/10th second quicker.
Do the rules need an overhaul so the different classes are more than just the shape of the bodyshell?
With 2 rounds complete a picture emerges of the quickest drivers, and cars at Presto Park from the fastest lap data:
| Class | Red | Blue | Yellow | Green | Average | ||||
| Saloon | Steve | 5.898 | Herbie | 6.002 | Steve | 6.042 | Steve | 6.030 | 5.993 |
| GT3 | Steve | 5.976 | Steve | 5.888 | Steve | 5.995 | Steve | 6.066 | 5.981 |
| Sports/GT | Steve | 5.851 | Herbie | 5.762 | Herbie | 6.125 | Herbie | 5.796 | 5.884 |
The Spirit Silhoutte 406 used by Herbie and Steve has similiar dimmensions to a GT3 car, and both classes are anglewinder 23k long can motors, so it should be NO surprise as the rules are the same for both classes, the results will be the same. The class average fastest lap for the Saloon class is 5.993 seconds, and for the GT3 class 5.981 a delta of just over a 1/100th second.
With the recipe perfected for the Saloon/GT3 class, it's a very small step to the Sports/GT class and the same build configuration with a more powerful motor which provides the lap time boost to 5.884 seconds, about 1/10th second quicker.
Do the rules need an overhaul so the different classes are more than just the shape of the bodyshell?
Yes, I think we need more of a 'speed differential' between the classes. I would like to see the motors / configuration specified, with a maximum rev' limit and gear ratios fixed for each class, then everyone is on a level playing field.
It must be demoralising for new members to be lapped several times in each race and perhaps the slower speeds would help them cope better.
I think we all need to talk about this as everyone has their own views.
It must be demoralising for new members to be lapped several times in each race and perhaps the slower speeds would help them cope better.
I think we all need to talk about this as everyone has their own views.
I think you are right Mike, saloons should be slower than GT3. Perhaps a change to short can motors, inline or sidewinder with a 23k rev limit for the saloons. Don't know about fixing the gearing though. To do that I think you would have to restrict the class to one particular motor only as other motors will have different characteristics that would require different gearing.
Yes, I take your point re gearing but we need to do something before next year races commence.
Not liking what im readingg !! 😂 im happy with my peugeot how it is 😂👍
A difficult question, I personally feel that there should be some clear difference between the classes, but how would it be administered? Banning one particular car may be an option to open up the racing to the other members of the club, but it is a rather draconian measure! I know from my experience that I will not be one of the top drivers, but I should always have the hope that a good result could happen given the right car, etc. These ‘super cars’ do form a barrier to the rest of us mere mortals. What do the rest of you think?
I may be wrong Dave, but I don't think banning a particular car is what Mike is proposing. Its more about refining the rules so the classes are separated in performance. It would be quite easy to administer if the type of motor, rev limit, and configuration (i.e. no anglewinders) were specified.
Well a week has passed with a change of class we are once again at the club room for our Saloon class with 15 drivers attending.
We had some very close racing and very fast and slow cars.
After 15 heats and five finals the results are as follows:-
1. Steve 25 + 1pt for fastest lap and class record 5.898 secs Well done Steve
2. James 23
3. Ian 21
4. Alan 20
5. Ken 19
6. Mike 18
7. Dave 17
8. Keith 16
9. Tone 15
10. Fozz 14
11. Martin 13
12. Luke 12
13. Simon 11
14. Dennis 10
15. Kyran 9
Next week is round 2 of our American Muscle
Have a good week and hope to see you all there
Well a week has passed with a change of class we are once again at the club room for our Saloon class with 15 drivers attending.
We had some very close racing and very fast and slow cars.
After 15 heats and five finals the results are as follows:-
1. Steve 25 + 1pt for fastest lap and class record 5.898 secs Well done Steve
2. James 23
3. Ian 21
4. Alan 20
5. Ken 19
6. Mike 18
7. Dave 17
8. Keith 16
9. Tone 15
10. Fozz 14
11. Martin 13
12. Luke 12
13. Simon 11
14. Dennis 10
15. Kyran 9
Next week is round 2 of our American Muscle
Have a good week and hope to see you all thereA difficult question, I personally feel that there should be some clear difference between the classes, but how would it be administered? Banning one particular car may be an option to open up the racing to the other members of the club, but it is a rather draconian measure! I know from my experience that I will not be one of the top drivers, but I should always have the hope that a good result could happen given the right car, etc. These ‘super cars’ do form a barrier to the rest of us mere mortals. What do the rest of you think?Yes, I think we need more of a 'speed differential' between the classes. I would like to see the motors / configuration specified, with a maximum rev' limit and gear ratios fixed for each class, then everyone is on a level playing field.
It must be demoralising for new members to be lapped several times in each race and perhaps the slower speeds would help them cope better.
I think we all need to talk about this as everyone has their own views.I thought body’s off at the end of the A final was so everyone can take notes and build an identical car. I personally think the rear tyres are a massive part of a quick car. Truing a set of tyres can take anywhere between 3-6hrs (not to be rushed). Truing a set at the club room mounted to the car is definitely not the wayThe James, Steve (and AndyT) show.
With 2 rounds complete a picture emerges of the quickest drivers, and cars at Presto Park from the fastest lap data:
Class Saloon GT3 Sports/GT
The Spirit Silhoutte 406 used by Herbie and Steve has similiar dimmensions to a GT3 car, and both classes are anglewinder 23k long can motors, so it should be NO surprise as the rules are the same for both classes, the results will be the same. The class average fastest lap for the Saloon class is 5.993 seconds, and for the GT3 class 5.981 a delta of just over a 1/100th second.
With the recipe perfected for the Saloon/GT3 class, it's a very small step to the Sports/GT class and the same build configuration with a more powerful motor which provides the lap time boost to 5.884 seconds, about 1/10th second quicker.
Do the rules need an overhaul so the different classes are more than just the shape of the bodyshell?
I thought body’s off at the end of the A final was so everyone can take notes and build an identical car. I personally think the rear tyres are a massive part of a quick car. Truing a set of tyres can take anywhere between 3-6hrs (not to be rushed). Truing a set at the club room mounted to the car is definitely not the way
What about running running two separate classes? Expert and novice. That will give the new members a chance to walk away with trophies at the end of the year.
I think that is a good point Steve re two classes. We have ran an A and a B class before so it isn't a problem. I just feel sorry for the members who in their heats have top drivers against them and are just racing for a fourth place finish. I think that perhaps that is a way forward, so the lower ranking drivers can win trophies at the end of the year and thus maintaining their interest through out the year.
We have ran an A and a B class before so it isn't a problem. I just feel sorry for the members who in their heats have top drivers against them and are just racing for a fourth place finish. I think that perhaps that is a way forward, so the lower ranking drivers can win trophies at the end of the year and thus maintaining their interest through out the year.
Sorry I thought were taking about the difference between classes, not drivers....
The tyre width limit on Saloons at our club is 10mm, Sports/Gt can have 12mm wide tyres...consequently Saloons aren't as quick.
I’d definitely say we’ve got enough members to run 2 classes
One of these days I will get used to my controller settings, eg, 2 pot for short cans, 3 pot for long cans, saves loosing the settings for setting up motors!!!
Everybody is in the same boat regarding purchasing car, motor, chassis and tyres. A newbee can go out and buy all parts exactly like a Herbie, Steve, Mike cars, so the final result is up to the experience of the driver!! couple of drivers race more than one night at different clubs, hence more exposure. Personally I can only spare one night a week to race and prepare my cars. My test track is a single Scalextric straight piece. Yes, my garage is full of cars collected over 7 years, going with the flow of updated new models.
No need to run 2 classes as Moisty mentioned, and it is an achievement to be able to occasionally beat one of the fast boys. It's the enjoyment of leading the pack to win, not the trophy!! So it's 3rd or 4th, Oh well !!!!!!
Looking forward to racing in the American Muscle next week, Barracuda, Teladega, or Mustang, um, which one, we'll see!!
Everybody is in the same boat regarding purchasing car, motor, chassis and tyres. A newbee can go out and buy all parts exactly like a Herbie, Steve, Mike cars, so the final result is up to the experience of the driver!! couple of drivers race more than one night at different clubs, hence more exposure. Personally I can only spare one night a week to race and prepare my cars. My test track is a single Scalextric straight piece. Yes, my garage is full of cars collected over 7 years, going with the flow of updated new models.
No need to run 2 classes as Moisty mentioned, and it is an achievement to be able to occasionally beat one of the fast boys. It's the enjoyment of leading the pack to win, not the trophy!! So it's 3rd or 4th, Oh well !!!!!!
Looking forward to racing in the American Muscle next week, Barracuda, Teladega, or Mustang, um, which one, we'll see!!
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