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With the recent problems at SCX the supply of spare parts in the UK has been virtually non-existent so, having a need to buy some RX42B motors, I have been obliged to look further afield for supplies.

Now, even if they were available, I would need to pay in excess of £12 for one in the UK. I have just bought some from the USA for £7.20 each, including shipping from the other side of the Atlantic. Moreover they arrived on my doorstep in just 5 days which is better than some UK suppliers can manage.

So who is making an excess profit here then?

Anybody know a US supplier of SCX NASCAR rear axles and tyres?
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QUOTE (stoooo @ 26 Jul 2012, 09:32) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That's actually wrong. Internet retailers in the USA only charge sales tax on sales made within their own state.

The bit on my invoice that says "Sales Tax" must be a figment of my imagination then.
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You can't argue with a diplomat!!!
I will allways suport my local shops, but liveing in darkest cornwall. the nearest toy shop that sells slotcars is over 100 miles away, let alone a specific slot car model shop. So it has to be the internet and i,m looking for the cheapest prices, sale items ect. i,d willingly pay a bit more to support my local model shop if we had one. john
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QUOTE (Pendleslot @ 26 Jul 2012, 10:46) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>No tax, no vat, no over heads, no wages, no rent, no rates........ sounds like heaven

http://www.pendleslotracing.gi ?
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Great information...two quick things to add from an American point of view.

1) Stooo is completely correct, CMOTD...sales tax should only be collected if the Seller has a bricks-and-mortar presence
in the US state you are purchasing from (we don't have a National VAT here, at least yet). So if you're buying from the UK and
you get hit with a tax, he's making a mistake in how he set up his Ebay auction, or flat out cheating you. Point it out next time
(ask for an invoice without the tax)...if he refuses, that's not a guy you want to do business with anyway.

2) fwiw, I think it should be noted that SCX is by far the least known 1/32 slot car seller in the US...in a country which largely
isn't aware of slot cars at all. I think there's some merit to the argument that pricing SCX...especially for parts in this case...
would have to be overly competitive to penetrate the market.

As for how Britain gets ripped off and how American's won't pay more that $4 for a US gallon of gas...shall I mention a friend
of my wife who is dying of a brain tumor because she can't afford the $60k down payment (honestly, just a down payment!) to have
an operation? There are funny imbalances all over the world.

John
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Is there any import or customs duty on products from the SCX factory to be paid by the UK importer and did the OP pay any import duty on his shipment?
Did the Op's products come from a brick-mortar business or an on-line retailer operating from his front room? (don't laugh I know one in the UK and In Canada).
Volume? SCX is more popular in the US?

Then there is 20% VAT which is not anything to do with the UK retailer. Did the OP pay VAT on his shipment?

A side note. Next time the OP goes to the doctor or has the misfortune to be admitted to hospital maybe he should be charged US rates?

I'm not saying all my math makes sense but like many things in life it is not all clear cut.

If I may add a personal note? Many years ago my mother visited me in Canada after some exchange rate calculations in the grocery store she was amazed how much cheaper stuff was until she dd a bit more thinking and then realized that actually the numbers were all pretty much the same. Ie. the same number of dollars was charged for items as was the same number of pounds in UK. From that point on she just shopped normally as she as accustomed to.
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I stand corrected on the sales tax even though I am, of course, sitting down. As the motors were so cheap anyway I don't think I will bother to reclaim it from the seller. American sales taxes are truly bizarre. At a hotel in Savannah last year I was charged state and city sales tax plus a bed (occupancy) tax! Can you buy expensive things, like a car, out of state on the internet and avoid taxes?

I am also not quite sure what our respective health care systems have to do with the price of toy plastic cars but most Americans I have met seem to think our NHS is verging on communism.

Anyway, back to topic - yes I bought from a "bricks and mortar" store and I had a choice of several selling at the same price. Stripping out tax from the equation, the fact remains that a UK dealer will pay the distributor £6.60 for an RX42B and his American counterpart can sell the same item at £5 and, presumably, make a profit. As far as I am aware there is no import duty payable by the UK distributor as we are part of the E.U. as is Spain.

Nobody has yet given me a satisfactory explanation for the discrepancy.
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Don't Tescos do a half price voucher offer Brian ?
QUOTE Anyway, back to topic - yes I bought from a "bricks and mortar" store and I had a choice of several selling at the same price. Stripping out tax from the equation, the fact remains that a UK dealer will pay the distributor £6.60 for an RX42B and his American counterpart can sell the same item at £5 and, presumably, make a profit. As far as I am aware there is no import duty payable by the UK distributor as we are part of the E.U. as is Spain.

Nobody has yet given me a satisfactory explanation for the discrepancy.

Have you not answered your own question?

I doubt if anyone from SCX will answer on a public forum the reason for the price differences.
I also doubt wether the UK distributor will publish his buying prices.
At the end of the day, the UK has had some exceptionally good offers on SCX in the past year or so. Perhaps similar questions were being asked in the US why cars were so cheap on this side of the pond.

I just don't buy into the whole 'rip off Britain' suggestion.

Sean
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QUOTE (CMOTD @ 28 Jul 2012, 09:20) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can you buy expensive things, like a car, out of state on the internet and avoid taxes?

I am also not quite sure what our respective health care systems have to do with the price of toy plastic cars but most Americans I have met seem to think our NHS is verging on communism.

CMOTD,
I'm not participating in the larger discussion because most of it is outside my experience. About car taxes, it doesn't matter where you buy...they get you when you register
the car in your own state. About my off-center mention of health care, I was simply suggesting that when one considers relative cost-of-living, or more specifically whether
Britain is being ripped off, it seems to me that one has to look at the whole picture. So for example, yeah, we get cheap gas and then extraordinary medical bills.

I agree that many Americans think that Nationalized health care is some form of Communism...frankly it IS Socialistic, and that's fine with me. My taxes have to go somewhere,
and I'd rather have free healthcare than another F-16. But that's just me *grin*
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Just to go off topic. We pay the second highest price for diesel in the World WHY? Diesel takes less refineing, so it should be cheaper than petrol. Do you remember when it was 2/3 the price of petrol. goverments can and do treat us as idiots. Viva la revolution. john
SCX do a motor mount to take different sizes of motors. john
QUOTE (stoner @ 28 Jul 2012, 12:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Do you remember when it was 2/3 the price of petrol. goverments can and do treat us as idiots. Viva la revolution. john

that'll have been back in the mists of time when no bu££er would be seem dead driving a "tractor"! i am sure that the price seemed to rise with the increase in performance , smoothness and therefore popularity of diesels. is it just me , but didn't the price of fuel in general seem to start spiraling once we were bullied into buying it in litres?
QUOTE (CMOTD @ 26 Jul 2012, 06:26) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The bit on my invoice that says "Sales Tax" must be a figment of my imagination then.

It depends on what state it is purchased from/in,some states have no sales tax,some are 6%,and some are as high as 10%.
Montana and Oregon are two that have none.
QUOTE (4.3 ZOOK @ 31 Jul 2012, 23:43) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It depends on what state it is purchased from/in,some states have no sales tax,some are 6%,and some are as high as 10%.
Montana and Oregon are two that have none.

True enough, but you aren't saying that a guy from the UK should be paying them, right?
The only law regarding state sales tax vis a vis the Internet is based on whether there's a
bricks-and-mortar location in your state. And then you would pay your State's sales tax
rate which as you say ranges anywhere from 0 to over 10%.

I'm not trying to be argumentative here...just giving clear information that could be
useful in the future.
QUOTE (John Cahill @ 31 Jul 2012, 20:10) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>True enough, but you aren't saying that a guy from the UK should be paying them, right?

I assume that the sales tax from a particular state would apply to overseas orders as well(person).
If he would have purchased from an Oregon company there would have been no state sales tax.
The town I live in is 50 miles from OR. and a lot of the folks go there to shop..
hy Petestrike, thinking about it your right. it was also the time the government was pushing us to buy diesel cars, on the grounds of fuel consumption-green ect. when everyone did, they lost a lot of fuel tax,nothing to do with the cost of producing it. in fact in the big supermarkets, they limmited the amount of cooking oil you could buy and you dont see the gallons of economy oil you could once buy. john
QUOTE (4.3 ZOOK @ 1 Aug 2012, 05:35) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I assume that the sales tax from a particular state would apply to overseas orders as well(person).

I see what you're thinking...but the Internet isn't handled the same way.

here's an example:
Say I live in Arizona (which has tax) and order via Internet from Oregon (which has no tax).
It doesn't matter whether Oregon has tax or not...I pay Arizona tax rate, and ONLY if that
Oregon store also has a store in Arizona.

Obviously, interstate tax makes no sense internationally. Also, note that Americans don't pay
the UK VAT when ordering from Pendles or wherever.

So, long and short of it...no, taxes are never to be collected by US citizens selling overseas.
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QUOTE (stoner @ 1 Aug 2012, 06:46) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hy Petestrike, thinking about it your right. it was also the time the government was pushing us to buy diesel cars, on the grounds of fuel consumption-green ect. when everyone did, they lost a lot of fuel tax,nothing to do with the cost of producing it. in fact in the big supermarkets, they limmited the amount of cooking oil you could buy and you dont see the gallons of economy oil you could once buy. john

i bet a day doesn't go by when i'm following an old diesel mondeo or similar that smells like a chip shop going down the road. who needs to buy new cooking oil?!! lets not go down the kerosene/red diesel line either....you know how we like "cheap" motoring down this way john! mind you , the fuel up your way is quite expensive i see.
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