Satanic (?) digital comparison......

Thanks gentleman for the really great replys.

Now again from my experience on racing with a DAVIC system in a 24h event:
-there was(is and will be) a rule that if you are a faster car and you are in the same lane as a slower car (which is infront of you) it is the duty of the driver of the faster car to see how he overtakes the slower car; the slower car may stay in his lane.
-second importaint rule: if you crash into a slower car infront of you and deslot him (for example infront of a corner or in a corner; just like in real racing!!), you get a stop and go penalty in a dedicated stop and go area (outside lane opposite of the pit lane).

What do you think of that?? I can tell you from experience that those rules mean a lot during a 24h race.

And back to one of the threads above; YES digital racing means a lot more concentration on the race itself and a lot more tactics than in a "normal " race.

Nico

24h GT Salzburg

>Slower cars should move out of the way of lapping drivers. It's the way in every FIA race ever run. Why should the faster driver have to overtake? He is being punished for being the faster driver. Slow cars should get out of the way and if they hold up the leaders then they should be punished like in real racing. Similarly, if two cars are racing head to head for 20 laps in a row and finally one pushes the other out of the slot, that driver should not be punished as it is a racing incident (unless he blatently does it on purpose, obviously). However, drivers who immediatly take out an opponant should be penalised with a drive-thru (penalty, not the food) as they do in real racing. The driver has 5 laps in which to take his drive-thru penalty after the descision has been made by an independant adjudicator. I think switching to a lane which has 5 volts maximum is a good idea, this will simulate the slow pit lane speed. The driver can switch back out of this lane after 5-10 metres, say.>

Nice idea, but one thing: KEEP IT SIMPLE!!!!!!

That is my point of view.

If you have a faster car or you are the faster driver, you have either the experience or the skill! So it should be no problem to overtake a slower car!! And I think that is what the digital systems are about!!!

I would rather call a collision on a lanechange a race accident than de-slotting another slotcar that is infront of me.
It is like in LeMans, where more than one class of cars compete. If someone is slower and stays in your way, just kick him out, so you can race at your speed again????!!! This IS NOT my idea of digital racing!!!!!!!!!!!

From my experience at racing for 24h, it is not that hard and the FEAR of deslotting while changing lanes - hey guys you also do not overtake a beginner on a slottrack in an outside corner, do you?????!!!!!!!
I think that fear is a lot bigger than the actual accidents are on the track!!!!

An the stop and go penalty is really a hard one as you have to change from the perfect lane (one in the middle I guess) to an outside lane to perform the penalty in a dedicated area!!

Experience of a digital system is the missing thing here!!!

Nico

24h GT Salzburg

Tropi, basically I agree, but that´s what rules are for.

You DO need a non-driving judge (race organization) that tells the penaltys to the driver/team, e.g. stop and go penalty.
If you agree or not is not the topic here. You have a fine to fullfill. If you refuse to you will get more fines and so on. If you do this during an endurance race (e.g.24h) your team will thank you a lot if you keep crashing into cars infront of you.
PLUS it keeps you well away from slower cars after a while and you will learn VERY FAST to overtake those slower cars infront of you as those stop and go penaltys really cost time (laps).

Simple. if there is someone who judges there is simply NO arguing. You are there to race after rules that were published before. if you don´t like the rules, simply do not race there!!
As I keep organizing races this has become my strict, but clear point of view.

No need to arguee during a race if there are clear rules, this stands for digital and "normal" races!!!
And hey, it is still a hobby and should be fun and as far as I know we are not racing for thousands of dollars (euros) worth of price money yet!!! And we are not pros yet that need this money to make a living!!!

Nico

Grenzlandslot

Perfect point Fergy!!!

Plus on a multi-lane track (like the one I have made my experience with the DAVIC system) there is more than just ONE perfect racing line.
On the 6-lane track there are at least 2 maybe 3 lanes that are perfect.

Now if you are a good driver and you are faster than most of the others you have 3 lanes to choose????
Maybe that is too much choice for some drivers............???!!!

Still fun is for me the major point of this hobby and hey, who has a "long term" experience with a digital system????? Who dares to say he has????????

Nico

Grenzlandslot