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Satanic (?) digital comparison......

4684 Views 36 Replies 10 Participants Last post by  Mr-X an anti-collision system for digital races simillar to driving with magnets??????

When driving with magnets your car does not drift a lot, so kicking your oponent off his track is rather hard.

An anti-collision system for digital races would do the same (at crossovers).

I know the question is a little satanic, but what is your opinion...?????


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Two words: Blue Flag.

Slower cars should move out of the way of lapping drivers. It's the way in every FIA race ever run. Why should the faster driver have to overtake? He is being punished for being the faster driver. Slow cars should get out of the way and if they hold up the leaders then they should be punished like in real racing. Similarly, if two cars are racing head to head for 20 laps in a row and finally one pushes the other out of the slot, that driver should not be punished as it is a racing incident (unless he blatently does it on purpose, obviously). However, drivers who immediatly take out an opponant should be penalised with a drive-thru (penalty, not the food) as they do in real racing. The driver has 5 laps in which to take his drive-thru penalty after the descision has been made by an independant adjudicator. I think switching to a lane which has 5 volts maximum is a good idea, this will simulate the slow pit lane speed. The driver can switch back out of this lane after 5-10 metres, say.

And also, proximity managed anti-collision things will mean, you get behind the fastest driver on the track and floor it. You will follow him round the track at a carbon copy of his speed, just 5 inches behind him. Therefore, you match his lap time even if you are a carpy driver. This way, the slowest driver will only be a lap down on the fastest driver at the end of a race, whatever it's length. I think that would be rubbish. I agree, the faster driver could change lanes to 'shake off' his followers, but what if he doesn't want to? Or what if the following driver just changes lane after him? The only solution is that the faster driver comes out, and then the slower driver is in front. Then, they'd just slow down and let themselves be overtaken again. IMHO, anti-collision is a silly idea as it takes away all of the realism that digital is meant to introduce.

Sorry for the novel...


PS. I know some slower drivers that would try and block me if I overtook them. It happens even when there is a lane's difference between us...
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Good point Maltese, bring RC into this!

I race RC every week. I started about 6-12 months ago, so I'm not that good yet. I'm in the middle of group 2 at the moment (of 4, 4 being the best). This means I'm faster than some drivers in my group, but slower than others. When someone comes to lap me, I keep the throttle down, but move aside about a foot. That way I let them though on the racing line and I loose less than a tenth in time... Similarly, if I come to overtake someone, they'll get out of my way. If they don't I'll nudge them, and if that doesn't work then I'll budge them... (then I'll blow their house down). This is the way to go. If you spend four minutes clawing a lap on someone, you aren't just gonna be able to pop by them. Especially if you can't have the racing line. Therefore you are stuck behind them until the end of the race... yeah, that seems fair...

I'm fed up (rant alert!) of everyone sticking up for the slow guys. No one gives a damn about Minardis, why should they care about slow slot racers? The compotition is to find the fastest. Faster drivers should therefore be awarded. This can be done by letting them through (a gentlemans way of racing). The should not be punished by having to go off line to overtake backmarkers. I agree that when racing for position, you must go around the driver in front, because he has every right to block his position, but not when they are a lap down. Let me ask you, how many times have you been racing and you have come up to lap 'Mr Trigger Happy Exhuberant Youth' who thinks he can stay with you for a lap, and takes you off, because clearly, he can't. I think that is downright out of order, and that kind of behaviour should be punished. If a Minardi ever tried to unlap himself on the a red car and it took him off, sure it would be praised by the whole population (except the Germans...) but it would be wrong, and he should be punished.

So I implore you (ooh, look at the fancy words...) reward your fast drivers, don't punish them... or there won't be any point in being fast...

Right, rant over, go on tell me why I'm wrong...


PS. Keep it simple: if you knock off a driver who is about to lap you, you are penalised. If you knock off a driver when vying (?) for position, then all's fair.
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I realise now that it sounds like I want the race handed to the good drivers... but this isn't what I meant.

Let me ask you, if you are about to get lapped (dunno who this applies to... just assume you are about to get lapped by someone faster than you) and the other guy is in the lane next to you. He is just about level with you as you come into a corner where he is on the outside.
Tell me what you would do:
a ). brake half a straight early, let him though and carry on.
b ). proceed as you would, if he gets knocked off by your sliding back end then so be it, or
c ). purposefully go in deep and try and knock him out, or at the very least block him.

You know what gentlemans answer would be, what's yours?

Okay, how about... You are ahead but on the same lap as someone else. He is acknowledged to be a better driver than you, and the only reason he is behind you is because of an unfortunate pile up in the first lap or so. He is gainingt quickly and will over take on the next corner. What would you do? Answers from above.

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I say it depends on how much faster then you he was...

Imagine you were on a normal track (no lane changes) and he was one lane away from you. Would he have overtaken you? If so, you should have let him. If not, you are entitled to race him.

It's not a rule, I just think it's fair. If you want to block or take out other drivers just be prepared for them to do it to you.

I imagine that I'll probably just end up going round slower drivers anyway, but it would be nice if a few people followed racing etiquet (?)...

I just know that if I am going to be overtaken (similarly not likely,
) then I would just let them through. Why bother delaying the inevitable? If by blocking them it means they just get pissed off and take me out, then no-one wins. I'm not gonna screw up someone else's race time just because I'm having a bad one. If I do this then I hope that he'll let me by when I have a good race and he has a bad one. Don't get me wrong, if I think I can hold someone off till the end of the race then I'll try, but I'm not gonna bother blocking someone who will just overtake me anyway... that would make me 'Mr Trigger Happy Exhuberant Youth'...

Am I just being too nice? Or too hopeful that someone will be that nice to me?

It's just that me and my mates at the club have an understanding, every night one of us is quicker than the other two, so instead of trying to take each other out, we leave each other alone and that way almost always one of us three wins, instead of someone else...

I think another reason why my opinion is different is that we race on time rather then points/postitions. This means that getting a good time is dependant on staying on, which only happends when you aren't taken off...

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