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Heh! A spirited, Dave Kennedy-esque defence of the brand, complete with random exclamation marks! And fifteen minutes later? An acknowledgement of a possible flaw. 🙄

Here's the thing, well, here's my thing; I don't like to chide Hornby but figure the only way possible flaws will get ironed out is if folk point them out. Case in point; the new Pfaff Motorsport 911 GT3 has a remarkably smooth underbelly to its interior tray - no odd little shallow plastic channels or appendages that might foul the ferrite man. Now, I don't know if that is fluke or by design after criticism received but all my recent Scaleys had bits 'n' bobs hanging down that rubbed the f-man up the wrong way and so comment was made.

Which is to say, as with Maurizio's decision to make the R32, DTMs and anything else he's done that I love, I'm claiming this change as mine. All mine! 🤗

They now just need to listen to my bleating about the NSX GT1. :cool:

Cue first Maurizio (he's too busy really) to deny my daydream and then Simon (also has more important things to do) to fully squash m' ego. :rolleyes:
 

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If the front wheels rotate independently, the position of the guide behind the front wheels will be less of an issue (although it's not ideal).
My beef with Hornby is that if Slot It cars with premium components sell for £50 to £60, there is no reason why Hornby cars with budget components cannot sell for £35 to £40.


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Expensive as Scalextric cars are they are cheap compared to Hornby/Bachmann trains.
When we have a run out, a root around and cup of tea N sticky bun at Dagfields Antiques centre near Nantwich, I usually go into Trident trains that's on site if I need paints or scatter materials for the slot track, the level of detail on steam,diesel engines,coaches and wagons is fantastic but at a price.
 

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Today I saw this video of how to install the a scalex digital chip in the newly released porsche gt3:


I have to say that I am not super impressed: you need to modify a standard chip to make sure the front axle is free to spin?
 

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It gets worse, Grunz. Not only does the chip foul the front axle, the infra-red LED rubs on the track because the DPR hatch has been designed to protrude below the bottom of the chassis.

The incompetence of Scalextric's designers is staggering. The video should be compulsory viewing for everyone at Scalextric who's responsible for the car's design. So many basic errors that could/should have been fixed before the car went into production.

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Oh yeah, I forgot about that: in the video the original IR LED in the chip gets replaced by a flat one.
To be honest, I will convert this car to DiSCA specs once a 3dp chassis becomes available (same for their C8R).
 

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Well yes there are falts with some Scalextric cars. Such as no front exhaust on one of my XC Falcons and two of my front engind cars,
an E type Jaguar and a Chev: Stingray. One of which didn't make it around my 94ft track, even once and the other just making it wth jurks and noise.
Which was caused by a lack of suficent contact in the drive line, which in this case can not be rectified without major surgery,
I like the looks of both these cars , so just keep them to look at and admire. Paint finnish could be better on a couple,not bad for 60 cars. BUT!!
Are there any brands that have never had a falt? By the way I wont be buying any more Scalextric front engind cars.

Show mse a man who has not made a mistake and I will show you a man that has done nothing!!!
 

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Show me a man who has not made a mistake and I will show you a man that has done nothing!!!
Now owning 693 Scalextric cars, I can safely say I've made many purchasing mistakes over the past 50 years. In no particular order, here are just three of them:

1. Ford Escort Mk 1
I bought Scalextric's beautiful Gulf Escort Mk1, optimistically believing that I could turn it into a good racing slot car. I already owned a dozen Scalex Escorts which had taught me that they were pretty much beyond salvation, but ever the optimist...

I spent hours on it, and a fair bit of money too, but despite the end result looking great, it has never handled well. Too heavy up top for its narrow track. I fitted alloy wheels, machined the original wheels down to use as inserts, cut away almost the entirety of the interior in order to reduce its weight and lower the car's centre of gravity, added a ton of lead ballast for the same reason, tried umpteen tyre compounds, changed the guide, bearings, gears and axles for better quality items, and yet it's still an unpleasant car to drive.

The only way to successfully tame it for running on my Ninco track was to fit hard rear tyres with very little grip. I quite like cars that slide a lot, believing that it takes skill to drive them quickly and well, but it's proved an uphill struggle to sell that idea to others more used to cars that have both decent grip and good handling, so now my Escort sits unloved and unused in a dark cupboard.
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2. Tyrrell P34
It looks beautiful. It's a pile of junk. Floppy chassis that should be helped by the body adding a little rigidity to the car, but isn't. One of the most poorly designed slot cars I've had the misfortune of buying. I cried and cried and cried with disappointment, then sold it.
Tire Car Wheel Vehicle Automotive tire




3. MG Maestro
I bought one. It was a long time ago. Hindsight suggests that at that time I must have been mentally unwell. I can think of no other reason for me having bought it.
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4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15. 16...
I'll spare Scalextric's blushes.

The good news is that I've also bought some fabulous Scalextric cars that still give me a great deal of pleasure:

1. Auto Union
They don't make them like this any more, which some will argue is a blessing, but with working steering, a lazy motor and no brakes, this is still a joy to drive and slide around.
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2 & 3. McLaren Honda MP4/4 and Ferrari F1/87
Great in their day and still great now. So great that I'm sure NSR copied the idea for their Formula 86/89 cars...
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4. Ford Sierra RS500
It needed a lot of work to make it race nicely, but it was well worth the effort. Looks great and now goes great.
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5. BMW Z4 GT3
Relatively easy to turn into a good racer, this livery is an absolute beauty and the car is a welcome addition to my racing fleet.
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And if anyone can explain why the hell I ever bought this, please do...
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Now owning 693 Scalextric cars, I can safely say I've made many purchasing mistakes over the past 50 years. In no particular order, here are just three of them:

1. Ford Escort Mk 1
I bought Scalextric's beautiful Gulf Escort Mk1, optimistically believing that I could turn it into a good racing slot car. I already owned a dozen Scalex Escorts which had taught me that they were pretty much beyond salvation, but ever the optimist...

I spent hours on it, and a fair bit of money too, but despite the end result looking great, it has never handled well. Too heavy up top for its narrow track. I fitted alloy wheels, machined the original wheels down to use as inserts, cut away almost the entirety of the interior in order to reduce its weight and lower the car's centre of gravity, added a ton of lead ballast for the same reason, tried umpteen tyre compounds, changed the guide, bearings, gears and axles for better quality items, and yet it's still an unpleasant car to drive.

The only way to successfully tame it for running on my Ninco track was to fit hard rear tyres with very little grip. I quite like cars that slide a lot, believing that it takes skill to drive them quickly and well, but it's proved an uphill struggle to sell that idea to others more used to cars that have both decent grip and good handling, so now my Escort sits unloved and unused in a dark cupboard.
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2. Tyrrell P34
It looks beautiful. It's a pile of junk. Floppy chassis that should be helped by the body adding a little rigidity to the car, but isn't. One of the most poorly designed slot cars I've had the misfortune of buying. I cried and cried and cried with disappointment, then sold it.
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3. MG Maestro
I bought one. It was a long time ago. Hindsight suggests that at that time I must have been mentally unwell. I can think of no other reason for me having bought it.
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4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15. 16...
I'll spare Scalextric's blushes.

The good news is that I've also bought some fabulous Scalextric cars that still give me a great deal of pleasure:

1. Auto Union
They don't make them like this any more, which some will argue is a blessing, but with working steering, a lazy motor and no brakes, this is still a joy to drive and slide around.
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2 & 3. McLaren Honda MP4/4 and Ferrari F1/87
Great in their day and still great now. So great that I'm sure NSR copied the idea for their Formula 86/89 cars...
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4. Ford Sierra RS500
It needed a lot of work to make it race nicely, but it was well worth the effort. Looks great and now goes great.
View attachment 313474




5. BMW Z4 GT3
Relatively easy to turn into a good racer, this livery is an absolute beauty and the car is a welcome addition to my racing fleet.
View attachment 313475



And if anyone can explain why the hell I ever bought this, please do...
View attachment 313476
Now owning 693 Scalextric cars, I can safely say I've made many purchasing mistakes over the past 50 years. In no particular order, here are just three of them:

1. Ford Escort Mk 1
I bought Scalextric's beautiful Gulf Escort Mk1, optimistically believing that I could turn it into a good racing slot car. I already owned a dozen Scalex Escorts which had taught me that they were pretty much beyond salvation, but ever the optimist...

I spent hours on it, and a fair bit of money too, but despite the end result looking great, it has never handled well. Too heavy up top for its narrow track. I fitted alloy wheels, machined the original wheels down to use as inserts, cut away almost the entirety of the interior in order to reduce its weight and lower the car's centre of gravity, added a ton of lead ballast for the same reason, tried umpteen tyre compounds, changed the guide, bearings, gears and axles for better quality items, and yet it's still an unpleasant car to drive.

The only way to successfully tame it for running on my Ninco track was to fit hard rear tyres with very little grip. I quite like cars that slide a lot, believing that it takes skill to drive them quickly and well, but it's proved an uphill struggle to sell that idea to others more used to cars that have both decent grip and good handling, so now my Escort sits unloved and unused in a dark cupboard.
View attachment 313463



2. Tyrrell P34
It looks beautiful. It's a pile of junk. Floppy chassis that should be helped by the body adding a little rigidity to the car, but isn't. One of the most poorly designed slot cars I've had the misfortune of buying. I cried and cried and cried with disappointment, then sold it.
View attachment 313468



3. MG Maestro
I bought one. It was a long time ago. Hindsight suggests that at that time I must have been mentally unwell. I can think of no other reason for me having bought it.
View attachment 313470



4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15. 16...
I'll spare Scalextric's blushes.

The good news is that I've also bought some fabulous Scalextric cars that still give me a great deal of pleasure:

1. Auto Union
They don't make them like this any more, which some will argue is a blessing, but with working steering, a lazy motor and no brakes, this is still a joy to drive and slide around.
View attachment 313471



2 & 3. McLaren Honda MP4/4 and Ferrari F1/87
Great in their day and still great now. So great that I'm sure NSR copied the idea for their Formula 86/89 cars...
[ATTAC/QUOTE]

Perhaps lower body lower centre of graverty then the Gulf escort?
 

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And if anyone can explain why the hell I ever bought this, please do...
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Maybe because it's a Pontiac and we don't have a lot of choice if we want to have cars with that name. I've had a thing about Pontiacs since my Nana gave me a pink Matchbox Pontiac for my birthday in 1961 and I got into slots well after these appeared on the scene but found it easy enough not to go there.
 

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Now owning 693 Scalextric cars, I can safely say I've made many purchasing mistakes over the past 50 years.
693 mistakes I think.
Dave, you must be a real sucker for punishment.
In my modern foray into slotting (the last 5 years), I bought ONE scalextric.

Ford Sierra RS BTC car on a deep discount.
I never got this car to work no matter what I did to it.
The only car I ever binned.
Unlike you, "fooled once" is enough.

Poorly designed "toy" cars with poor components, using magnets to obscure everything that's bad is no way to enjoy your sport. These cars are only fit for the shelf or stripping for the bodies to use on top of quality machinery.

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Yeah, rubbish aren't they....


That's two clubs meeting on a neutral track, with no magnets, brakes or putting them back on when they crash. Just slot-it rear tyres.

Must be an ability thing......
 

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Expensive as Scalextric cars are they are cheap compared to Hornby/Bachmann trains.
When we have a run out, a root around and cup of tea N sticky bun at Dagfields Antiques centre near Nantwich, I usually go into Trident trains that's on site if I need paints or scatter materials for the slot track, the level of detail on steam,diesel engines,coaches and wagons is fantastic but at a price.
This is a good point, anyone who saw the Hornby TV series will have seen the absolute attention to detail that goes into production of every new train or rolling stock unit. I guess some of us in the slot car world would wish that the same level of detail went into their slot car design. However, I'm pretty sure that none of us would be happy paying train prices for slot cars. The problem starts though when Scalextric slot car prices are approaching or overtaking the likes of Slot-it.
 

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Yeah, rubbish aren't they....


That's two clubs meeting on a neutral track, with no magnets, brakes or putting them back on when they crash. Just slot-it rear tyres.

Must be an ability thing......
I see your point. You can make them going around the track...but if you start to push them to do some proper racing they come off ;-)
 

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...but if you start to push them to do some proper racing they come off
Before I shake my head in disbelief at this one, can you define 'proper racing' and explain how I mistook the action in the video for, er, racing? :unsure:
 
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