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I have a few pictures of some 4WD Rally Cars i had not seen posted yet.





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Okay Jaak, here are some pictures (I post more later on).

Some Lancia Stratos (Teamslot)

Some Lancia Integrale (Teamslot)

My favorite Lancia Int.

Some Lancia 037 (Fly)

Some Audi Quatro (Fly)

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Here are some cars:


The never is enough Porsche 911 (Fly and one Nico) (more to be shown later):

Two slot beasts (SCX Pro Xsara and the Gom anglewinder Toyota Celica):

The great BMW M1:

The Fantastic Duo (Ninco Renault Clio) (The NSR Blue Clio is coming on the mail)

The Nincos (Peugeot 307, Ford Focus and Mitsubishi):

One beautiful Renault 5 from Fly:

The brutal Spirit Peugeot 205:

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Rallyhub, you are right. I wrongly call it JWRC because I run it with the JWRC cars. There is nothing like fabrication.
The recent addition of the two Anglewinder Rally monsters (that dominated the end of the Spanish 2007 rally season).

The NSR Clio. First quickly before Swissracer notices.

Uf, I escaped. Let me hide the evidence with


Now the very attractive Porsche 997 (this car is a case against the ones that say Ninco is falling behind
in looks, I am one of those).

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Drat!! No luck. I thought I pulled it off, Swissracer.

By the way, I might keep the inserts in the car. The car is nice looking sometimes and not so nice looking some other times.
But the car drives fantastically in my rally track, excellent driving experience (just off with the mag and glue the tires).
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Rubberduck, who made the toyota celicas behind the Teamslot one? SCX?
The Xsara Pro SCX is well known to be a very good racer (one of the best if you tweak it). I do not know about its behavior in Scalextric Sport track but if it is slidding just change the rear tires.

After this propaganda I have to say that it is not my favorite car because of the noise and type of noise it still makes and the fact that it is not particularly fast on the straights (maybe after the motor is well run if will be a bit better) and also since the motor is very close to the rails and has a strong magnetic pull it has that stuck feeling. It is this stuck feeling that makes this car very stable and a great racer on twisty and unknown tracks.
My collection of Lancia Stratos (Teamslot):

Fantastic little cars, I have them fast and furious (Green As motors and all gears and alum. wheels) and I have them mild with short can motor, each version is like having a new car.

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Hi JRob, here are some pictures of the Rothmans livery (with some missing accessories).

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Graham, why is taking so long for that Stratos to arrive? You talk about it more than one month ago. You have the patience of a saint and\or have not acquired the modern man lemma "I want it, I want it now". It is great for you.

Looking forward to seeing your rally collection grow. After tunning down the car and play with the tires and some lead I have learn to enjoy the Spirit BMW 2002. Which is a good companion to the cars you just described. Of course I think that are many other "classic" rally cars that should be in your collection.

The chassis of the Stratos is okay (the guide portion is not the best, but it is okay).
Well this is not a new car but it is a renewed car. I put a Hobby Slot Racing chassis on the Ford Sierra Cosworth and some slot plus wheels on it that I painted white to look rallyish. It will disturb the purist but I actually disliked the original wheels so can not go to the trouble of cutting and inserting the original wheels on calibrated wheels. What do you think?
Running wise there is no comparision, the car now feels like a racing rally car and not like rattle toy.

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In my opinion the original car was quite bad so much it almost never went in the track. The car now is completely different as expected.

It has also a different motor, it has the green Avant Slot motor which has some magnetic pull (11UMS), but it would do well also with NSR King 21 (8UMS) or Cartrix TX6 (7.5 UMS).
The difference is the car is predictable at very fast speeds. The cars that I have with a HRS chassis or Hobby Slot Racing chassis ran extremely well and are very predictable. When you drive the car with these chassis you think why don't all cars drive like this?

The difference in times must be of the order 2-3s in 13s laps from the original to the modified, but you also get a silent car and a car that slides predictably at high speeds. In other words, a jewel.
Well John, you asked for it.

I went and drived the cars for which I put a new chassis (I also included the Lancia Integrale from Teamslot since I worked a lot on this model and it is a competitor to the Sierra Cosworth.

Here is a picture with two gropus (one group has the group B cars with new chassis and the other group has the cars from 1987-1993 with new chassis).

Here is a picture with the cars in order of best lap times:

1- (12.05s) Lancia 037

Body: Fly (cockpit butchered for motor and weight considerations)
Chassis HRS
Motor AS green motor (11 UMS)
Weight body 27.9g;weight chassis 64.9g (total 92.8g)
Tires:rear P4;front Zero 17mm
--this car is from another planet, very fast and very secure (here shape and magnetic pull from motor play a role).

2- (12.29s) Opel Manta
Body: Sloter
Chassis HRS,
Motor MB SongNa (11UMS)
Weight body: 23.3g; weight chassis: 60.3g (total 83.6g)
Tires:rear P4;front Zero 17mm
-- this car slides a lot but almost never deslots (very fun and stable)

3- (12.59s) Lancia Integrale
Body: Teamslot,
Chassis Teamslot (guide modified),
Motor: Avant Slot Green (11UMS)
Weight body: 32.5g Weight chassis: 61.3g (total 93.8g)
Tires:rear P4;front Zero 17mm
--very fast, very tense, more stable than expected due to magnetic pull of motor and body shape and the weight distribution in the body (a bit misterious but there are theories)

4- (12.66s) Ford Sierra Cosworth
Body: SCX
Chassis: Hobby Slot Racing Diablo Evo (had to be trimmed so that tires do not go out of the body too much)
Motor: Avant Slot Green (11UMS)
Weight body: 31.4g Weight Chassis: 62g (total 93.4g)
Tires: rear PKS 008ER, front SCX (low profile)
--Very fast, more tense than the Manta but less tense than the Lancia, so it does slide but not too much. Extra tunning might change this. The wheels and tires have to be more narrow than the previous cars 9mm tires instead of 10mm.

5- (12.69s) BMW M3
Body: Fly
Chassis: Hobby Slot Racing Diablo Evo
Motor: Spirit 3X
comments later (very fun car to drive)

6- (12.99s) Audi Quattro
Body: Fly (with lexan cockpit and original heads)
Chassis: Ninco Mitsubishi Pajero (with some dramatic modifications)
Motor: Cartrix TX6 (7.5UMS) very good motor it has much less magnetic pull
comments later (Extremely fun car, I am dying to do a movie of this car going fast on the track, fabulous slides)

7-( 13.03s) Ford Cosworth
Body: SCX
Chassis: HRS
Motor: Boxer open(10-11UMS)
Comments later (too tall and too narrow very tense but excellent finger exercise)
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Is a mouse going to stop to eat cheese?

Abslolutely, I have several projects in mind. Some involve resin cars (a first for me). Others involve chassis that I bought from Spain and I am waiting for.

I am very curious about the HRS 2 chassis anglewinder (2 coming from Spain, unfortunately not yet available in the US). I am also waiting for a PKS (Spanish company) chassis with dropping arm. I am definitely going to do another or anothers Lancia 037 I have with one or two of these chassis and then compare the results.

I buy them from spanish online stores.

Rally lexan from MSC

Interior completo en lexan para rallyslot
Fabricante: MSC
Ref: MSC15000
Euros 2,35

Here are two possibilities (well known and established Spanish online stores) that I have dealt with and are very reliable:

Hope it helps
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THe Hobby Slot racing chassis is cheaper than the (by 4$) here in the US. Performance wise for home use not clear the differences (did not analysed it too much but I would think they very close).

The difference is what are the cars you can put these two chassis on. The Hobby Slot racing chassis allows more possibilities. The new chassis HRS2 will allow I think more possibilities. Other issue is where the supports for the body are located. Here the Hobby Slot Racing chassis will allow lower positions of the chassis with respect to the body. Again for some rally cars this will make the Hobby Slot chassis applicable but not the HRS or HRS 2 chassis (recall the the HRS chassis is not done really with rally cars in mind).
As V8Vantage stated I had some posts on the chassis thread and a thread about the Fly M3 where I talk about some of the differences between the two chassis. Look at those posts.

Basically with respect to width there is no difference but I have used them on SCX cars like (Sierra Cosworth, Escort Cosworth) which are not so wide and are basically the limit.
The difference between the two chassis lies on the distance from the front axle to the guide (I think 2mm) this allowed me to do the BMW M3 with the HSR chassis but it would have been impossible with the slot.i chassis. The other difference is as I said before the placements of the support bars. The difference is not very big, I do not have the measurements in my head but maybe 1-2mm. Again this allowed me to do the Sierra Cosworth which would have been impossible with the chassis (note the HSR chassis is also not really a rally chassis). In most of my adaptation the supports that you glue in the body are coming down from the body by 1-2mm but the miracle of super glue makes these supports completely stable (esthetically it is basically unnoticeable
on the track, look at the pictures I posted and see if you notice)

If you have bad rally cars and these chassis fit (and this will hold for many) and you are okay to trim the cockpit for the motor to fit (if you use short can then less damage to the cockpit, I am a genius), then you will blown away by the transformation.
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Too many posts too little pictures. So...

I got a Simca Rally

Wait!!! Where is the co-pilot? Ahh! The name of the car tricked me... well not really. Here is the rally version adaptation.

When you take out the magnet the car is not that brilliant, so you need to add weight on the back (the motor is on front ). I replace the back wheels by calibrated wider wheels to get more traction and balance. The original motor has basically no brakes so it is useless for rally. I did not wanted to get a too powerful motor because this car belongs to the class of rally cars from 1970-1975 which I ran at 12V and the motor of choice is NC2 (which has 14k rpm at 12V).
After a not that easy search (in part because of the position of the motor shaft) I found a Teamslot short can motor I had that made this car equivalent timewise to the NC2 at 12V. I also added the co-pilot from teamslot (and replaced the pilot) and did some weight reduction cosmetics on the clear cristals.

The car is now stable, is rally responsive (acceleration and braking) on the track and runs on the time region that I wanted, so I guess I am lucky.
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My adaptation done above is not far fetched. The Simca Rally 1000 was used as a rally car (Okay, maybe this post is just pretext to posting pictures)

A real rally livery

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Hi John,

What made the Simca an okay car without magnets apart from the weight on the back was the replacement of the motor for one with brakes. To have a car which has a tendency to tip over with a motor with almost no brakes is a recipe for disaster, in particular on rally tracks. It was also important the use of wider wheels on the back.
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