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EDIT: Here's the rules, continue for the original post.

General Rules:

Body must be a 1/32 small car. For a list of eligable bodies see below.

Chassis must not be metal based. It must consist of plastic, styrene, wood, cardboard, PCB or similar, and metal will be allowed for stengthening purposes only. Chassis design is completely free, and unlimited weight can be added. Chassis can be FWD, RWD or 4WD.

Choice of motor is free.

No magnets to be used for the purpose of increasing traction. This includes canny motor placement to use the motor mags on the rails.

Wheels, tyres, axels and so on are free.

Tyres must be kept to within 2mm of the arches (1mm either side) but arches may be widened, just don't go overboard, keep it sensible.

Bodies must not me "chopped" to lower or extend the body. Arch extensions and asthetic modifications are the only body mods allowed.

Class One rules:

Eligable bodies:
Mini (Old)
Mini Clubman
Fiat/Seat 500
Riley Elf
Wolsey Hornet
Beetle (Old)
Subaru 600
Smart Car
Morris Minor
Austin/MG Metro
Ford Anglia
MG 1100

Max width must be kept to within 2mm of the arches (1mm either side) but arches may be widened, just don't go overboard, keep it sensible.

Class Two rules:

Eligable bodies:
Citroen Saxo
Renault Clio
Ford Fiesta
Fiat Punto
BMW Mini

Max width is 59mm. Arches may be extended to cover the back axel, but no more.

Class Three rules:

Eligable bodies:
Lotus Elise
Toyota MR2 Roadster
Xylon
Honda S600
Toyota S800
MGB Roadster
Austin Healy
Triumph TR4A
Fiat Arbath 1000
Bugeyed Sprite
Porsche 356 Speedster
Lotus Elite
Lotus Seven
Mercedes SLK

Max width is up to 1mm outside each arch, which may not be extended beyond standard.

Compotition:

Classes will be run along side each other, but results will be divided into Classes and prizes awarded for class winners. There will be no concours compotition.

Track Details:

At the moment there are two likely venues (well, kind of...): Eastcote Ninco track and an up North wooden track (Pendle main or hot hatch track, or Preston maybe, depending on what's available). This will be updated when I find out.

These events will be run in either December or January, so you have loads of time to build them. Events may be run slightly earlier, or slightly later, depending on how quickly all of the cars are built.

Postage Costs:

I will have to get back to you on that one, but luckily for you it should be not too bad, because the series won't leave the UK, and I'll be the one taking them up north so it's just return postage that you'll need to include (sorry, I can't afford to cover this!).

Hints and Tips:

Although tyres are free, rubber is the way to go for the tracks that we are running on. Slot.It tyres work on Ninco and routed track, but they may be a bit too grippy.

If you have any more suggestions, need a car to be added to the lists, or you need any help or whatever, just PM me or drop me an email @ [email protected] .

Original Post:

Just putting out the feelers for a new Proxy series for the masses, and the absolute beginners.

The aim is to make a series with rules designed for cheap cars. Hopefully to be around the £30 mark but maybe a bit more. This is about the RRP of an RTR cars these days and nothing like the god-knows-how-much spent on the usual proxy cars.

The idea was inspired by a combination of talk about the Mini kit by Aaron, talk about the little Subaru's by Swiss and Mr M and talk by Howmet of a build by a lot of members of an easy it to get beginners into scratchbuilding.

Here's what I'm thinking about:











Mini shells are abundant and the Fiat shells are available from Pendle (Here) for just £12 (with full interior and glass). And there are various links around for the others.

I think that'd be great. You're resticted by width and obviously a tiny wheelbase, so motors can be free or a standard for everyone.

What do you think guys? Feedback required.

McLaren
 

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Just what I've been waiting for!

I've never entered a Proxy race before, but would love to have a go.

I've seen Graham host these events and it looks like good fun.

So you can count me in!

Never knew what to do with these little chap:

now this could be just the thing for it!

As you say - the wheel base restricts us somewhat. I had thought of a 'control' motor, like a regular scaley motor. We all have at least one of those hanging around...

So - Entries so far?

McLaren :- TBA
James - Junior Racer :- Mini
Daleg :- Fiat

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Count me in, will sort me out one of those Farts, sorry Fiats!!!!
 

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Hi McLaren

<<god-knows-how-much spent on the usual proxy cars.>>

I think that you will find that the usual proxy car for this years World Proxy race dont cost any more to build than a standard RTR car...... The biggest cost in the cars are the bodies for the most part.... The chassis nomally cost only a few dollars in materials.. It getting people to build that is the hard part


But you have a good idea.. Anything to get people interested in building is great..

What kind of track will the races be held on?? plastic or wood?? What can the chassis be made from, brass, plastic, PC board etc??

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Well I was thinking plastic (or similar) based, just to stop the real brass pros running away with it. PC board, plastic, styrene, resin or whatever, allowing metal for bracing or a drop arm say... I'd like to see what is the most popular, so as to get as many people as possible.

The same goes with the tracks. I have a range of Ninco, Scalextric and so on tracks available, and I could also send them to wooden tracks. I think that the cars would be more suited to smaller, road tracks rather than fast, sweeping routed tracks. But it's really up to you guys. It's pretty much the same score as with the 60's F1 cars.

I'm thinking: Wheels, tyres, gears, bearsings, axels and so on should be free, with an option on the motor. Either have one for the whole class, or have motors free. And another possibility is to have an NC2 class (for example) and have a free motor class.

Feedback required.

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Right, despite the almost total lack of interest, I'm going ahead with this.

At the moment there are two likely venues (well, kind of...): Eastcote Ninco track and an up North wooden track (Pendle main or hot hatch track, or Preston maybe, depending on whats available).

Rules:

Body must be a hard plastic 1/32 small car. Inquire for eligability if you are unsure. Fiat 500, original Mini, Arii Suberu, Ford Fiesta or similar.

Chassis must not be metal based. It must consist of plastic, styrene, wood, cardboard, PCB or similar, with metal allowed for stengthening purposes. Chassis design is completely free, and unlimited weight can be added. Chassis can be FWD, RWD or 4WD.

Motor is free. Bear in mind that these are small, non magnet cars which won't be able to handle one of Fergy's strap motors.

Wheels, tyres, axels and so on are free.

Tyres must be kept to road legal standard (within the arches) but arches may be widened.

Must look like a hot hatch.


It's all pretty laid back, so the rules are lax, and more suited to a newbie who can use pretty much whatever they can get their hands on.

About 5 people in now... Anyone else interested?

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Tough to commit to anything right now... buying house, selling house, etc., but if I can find the time I'll try to get one together, McLaren.

Do you have an idea of "when" yet?
Hopefully.... not too soon.
 

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No, that is a definate. It will be "not too soon". I'm starting Uni tomorow, and I want to give it a lot of time for everyone to finish. Especially as for some it will be their first time.

Very pleased to see that you are interested. If you want to use a different "small" body, just ask and we'll decide if it's small enough


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QUOTE ask and we'll decide if it's small enough

After the F1 is done, a Mini or Abarth will seem like a Land Rover...


Bodies are hard plastic only?
 

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I've never done any of this proxy stuff, more of a hands-on guy myself, but I'm a bit interested because of the subject matter!

But I'd like to know if the motor rule is set in stone, because I think the NC2 is a bit big (physically and powerwise) for these little cars. For instance the Arii Scooby wouldn't have enough room for one between the axles, and would be hard to keep on the ground if you could fit it.

My take on these proxy races is to make the car very easy to drive, so whoever gets to race it feels in control! Personally I would leave motors free or take NC2 specs as the upper limit.

What does the panel think?

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QUOTE I would leave motors free

I tend to agree, Mr. M. Like the F1, the mere size of these cars makes it self-defeating to use a killer motor.

Can't believe I just said that! (Neither can Beejay!)
 

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I've got an old Clubman thats crying out for a Fergy Strapie........

Not sure about the NC2.....Bit of a plonky motor, how about a standard Mabuchi...Slotbug are selling them for £2 each, you can't get much cheaper than that.

Out with the PCB again...........

Great to see this Mclaren, the more people you can get into scratchbuilding the better. But a word of warning...Once you start you won't want to look at RTR again...it is addictive.

Best of luck with it.

Regards

Alan
 

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Sorry McLaren,
I am definately interested but I am a tad busy right now with the PArty, work and the fact my wife zipped off to the States for a week this morning.

I agree with the NC2 being too big but what about the good old NC1?
plenty of power to put down without being ludicrous and anyway thats whats in my Scooby


following this thread even if it took awhile to post in it.
 

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I think I'll put a standard Mabuchi in my Mini, should be fast enough.

Popsicle stick chassis is in order for this one, I think.

My first Proxy event!


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Could someone explain what all this is about, it looks very interesting and i'd like to get involved but I need to know what its all about first lol
 

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QUOTE Motor is free. Bear in mind that these are small, non magnet cars which won't be able to handle one of Fergy's strap motors.

Good grief! I have Beejay to thank for constantly being written into proxy race rules now!
 

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.... I couldn't find the icon for tearing my hair out....
Probably just as well... there isn't that much left....
 
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