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Hi,heres a set i just got from Poland.
Ive never seen one before. Its not the Nova set made in st petersburg but one made in Moscow for the Soviet bloc not the west. It has a Mirage & a Lamborghini,but they are different from the western & nova cars. 1st the guide is different,2nd the motor is mounted differently (it doesnt have the u shaped alum.braket attached to the motor),3rd the colors are different including the interiors,4th the interior molding is different because of the rear wheels,5th the rear gears are different. The track & fence are different as well. There is also a photo of the Nova car chassis above the Moscow one to compare. Look at the yellow locking piece for the track. The Moscow made box is also different & its much thicker & heavier. The controllers dont say Nova.The paperwork says "auto racing". "test-experimental(proof) office of Moscow. 220 volts,the last sheet says "the toy
' electronic toy assembly. "the training path","guarantee education"15,000 made. So the Soviets did make sets for their own,the other set which they exported to the UK were different & made in a different factory & a different city. Cool ! ,enjoy,Bernard
 

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hi
a very nice find,think a trip to kwik fit might be in order though.
 

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Wonderful, Bernard. You're the James Bond of slot-cars, or perhaps one of his behind-the-scenes gurus.
Is the motor a Johnson 111 or copy? The British versions I'm familiar with had FT16 motors.
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I've had these variations (from East Germany) in the past, in fact I still have a spare interior for one, but the ones I have had also had a different motor,


The mount is different and a Johnson 111 will not fit at all as it is too long.
Also note the different tyres, unlike any others, UK or USSR

QUOTE Is the motor a Johnson 111 or copy? The British versions I'm familiar with had FT16 motors

Later production had Johnson 111 motors.
 

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QUOTE Good stuff! Red Lambos must exist in quantity - just need to find russian ebay...

When you've found yours I'll take all the spare ones you get, at your price!
 

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Thats great Bernard,

I've got a Boxed Novo Set, which is complete all but one piece of curved track. (I'm still looking for that if anyone has one)

Who'd have thought they'd have gone to the trouble of making a whole new style of track it what would appear to be a small run, then rip off something as easy to change as the box lid.

Do the track parts look like any other brand from that era? and was the Russian version produced before or after the Scaley/Novo fuss?

Interesting Mr Bond, the cold war comes to slot cars...........
 

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Hi,the motor is the same as the Novo motors. The blade guides are also alot larger than the Novo guides. The track appears to be original not a copy,but who knows ? Ive looked & cant find anyone else who made this type of track. I dont know if this set came out after the Novo set or before. But the Novo set was made for export not internal use.Thats why the sets box & paper work is in English not Russian. The set wasnt a ripoff of the Novo set,it was an altered set made for the socialist countries. Remember these were not privately owned companies but state owned. So a collective would have decided to make the set using the earlier set as a guide for newer production models. The final out come would have been based on the money allotted for the sets & the planned production numbers. So if anything there was probably 2 factories working together not in competition.
There is much more out there than we think. I will soon put a 1/48th scale Soviet set on Slot F orum when it arrives from southern Russia. thanks,Bernard
 

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HI

Looking forward to the 1/43rd set and wondering what else might be out there in terms of sets and cars from Russia and the East Block? Does anyone have more information along these lines? The list of who produced what keeps expanding!!!

all my very best,

Charles
 

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Glad to see it finally made it to you Bernard.

Thanks for sharing this - and for shaking up the Scalextric guys!

Phil, you never cease to amaze me with all the stuff that's passed through your hands over the years...

I just ran into an article in an early 80s British model car magazine, in which a Russian woman talks about her husband's slot racing hobby, and shows one of the totally scratch-built cars from his stable!

Vodka anybody?

Don
 

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Hi,& thanks for the comments on this special set. In my museum i have from The German Democratic Republic-Prefo(ho & 1/32). from Yugoslavia-Tempo(ho). fromCzechoslovakia-Ites(1/32),& Gonio(1/32). from USSR-Ulyanovsk Instrument Industrial Association(1/48)Scalextric Moscow(1/32),& Novo(1/32). I have all these in my collection,but there may be more.
I think there is.
I have the 1/43rd metal Soviet Gaz Pobieda slot car which i think may have been made before 1957.I havent found any info on it yet,but i will.
Thanks,bernard
 

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Hi, Bernard, as author of the History of Scalextric books any chance of a quality image of the 'new' ryussian set you obtained for the next edition of my book ?
Plus can anyone else send me an image ? - there are details of the Nove GT racing set in my last book but I would like to extend the story to include the Russian sets.
Were any other cars made or did they just continue to use or remake the original Scalextric provided mould tools. Roger.
 

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Hi Roger,i sure enjoy your books.
I would be glad to send you photos of both sets. Please contact me through here or through my website (just goggle bernards slots). I do have more coming.Thanks,Bernard
 
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