[McLaren]

An example:

Ninco produce a Ford Focus WRC 2004.

If BP do not want the car made, then presumably they have a say on whether it is or not. Or whether a car is made without their logo on it?

But if the car is made, who gets the money?

Do BP pay Ninco for displaying their logo on the model?

Do Ninco pay BP for allowing them to make a car with their logo on it?

Is it a situation where no money changes hands?

Or is it a case where no money goes dierect, but goes through Ford?

It's just something I was wondering about, and thought you guys might be able to help.

McLaren

 

[Intergrali]

Ford will own all rights for that particular car (usually)

 

[astro]

Great thread Mclaren! I too would love to know some of the ways these deals work.

I have a suspicion that there is no one answer, it may depend on the various contracts the particular car manufacturer, racing team, sponsors and even event organisers have signed. Even heard rumours that the sponsors or teams are expected to pay the slot car manufacturers to make their cars!

Hopefully some people who have actually worked in these areas can shed some light

 

[Scott B]

All options valid.

Most often a team or even a championship will own the rights to reproduction in images and models (and the lucrative electronic games market). Some individual sponsors will require a percentage, some just a credit and right of approval while others will just leave it up to the team/championship to exploit as best and as much as possible.

To meet these rights payments the model company might offer product, i.e. each sponsor gets a number of cars free to use as promotional giveaways. That's a nice idea, not least as it spreads the models to a much wider audience without cutting into the model companies target market. My second coming as a slot car fanatic was initiated by a bunch of Hornby Computervisioon Metro 6R4s sitting by my desk. Having secured an example for myself I needed new track and more cars and, nearly twenty years later....you know the rest.

 

[mtucker666]

QUOTE (Ecurie Ecosse @ 26 Jul 2004, 18:32)Most often .....a championship will own the rights to reproduction in images and models.
Is not this the reason we do not see any current BTCC cars doing being produced.

Matt

 

[Wankel Ickx]

QUOTE Is not this the reason we do not see any current BTCC cars doing being produced.

Kind of a blessing if it is! Last time I looked at BTCC it appeared to resemble a rice boys convention.

 

[Scott B]

Oh... harsh.

I think real reason is that no one is that interested in the BTCC these days. Even so, I think there was one recent BTCC car, namely the 888 liveried Astra Coupe (a DTM Astra, so wrong shape, but close enough) available only through Toy r Us or some such.

Scott

 

[astro]

What about specifics, like F1 licencing? Is that down to teams owning merchandising?

Who do we petition if we want a Bar car? Bar, or F1 assoc? Already emailed the Bar shop on their website askin for a slot car.

 

[Scott B]

F1 usually down to the team, not least as it can be a good source of income.

I would guess that with "Our Jens" doing so well there will be a Hornby BAR along soon, although a bit bare as there will be no tobacco signage.

 

[jonny s]

I can back up Scott and add to the examples as I know Colin,owner of Teng Tools. The Teng Tools Diablo was Scaley model and Colin still has a load of these left. He alsio has a job lot of Porsche GT 2or 3? These were part of an earlier Scaley Inter active set. I`ve used these as Club cars and Colin flogged me a load at £13 per set of two (plus VAT). I gave twenty away last year as competition prizes for the youngsters but it makes me wonder which other sponsors have a cart load sitting idle?