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Evening All. I have just recently primed, sprayed and then put decals onto one of my HO bodies only to spray the finished car with a gloss lacquer only for the colour off the decals to run. but W T F!. Any help or direction? One pee'd off HO racer.
 

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Did you use an inkjet or laser printer ?
Decal paper is available for both, maybe you got the wrong sort ?

If not that, it may be the ink in your printer isn't up to the job.
Did you clear spray the decals with automotive acrylic laquer on the sheet before applying ?
 

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Hiya Savage, thanks for the reply. I got the decals from Pattos and they were water slide, I had left the decals to dry for 24 hrs before applying and no I did not try a test on a sheet before applying
 

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I would pick Martin's and Clive's brains. Weather factors probably came into play, I know some keen painters will only do projects late spring and summer.

FWIIW Patto do peel-and-stick decals.
 

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Apologies, I thought you were talking about home made decals.
Best bet is to email patto's to see if they can shed any light on the matter
 

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The spring/summer thing is because you get an uneven finish from a spray can (pitted like orange peel) when it's cold and humid. Should be okay with an airbrush and compressor with a moisture trap. Or using paint and brush (my preferred method).

Pattos says on his website:
Please note that Future Floor Finish is the only finish that can be used on the decals. Most other finishes are too "hot"for the ink. If you want to use another finish, make sure you test it on a small piece of scrap first.

I use a sponge brush to put the floor polish on the decals and then dip the finished car in a small tub of the stuff. I do at least two coats and up to five if the car will get some serious punishment.

When you take the car out you want to drain it off and just leave a thin layer. Cotton buds are good at drawing up any collection of polish. You can spray the polish with an airbrush too.

Here are some cars after dipping on some handy little tops that hold the body with blutack:

 

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I've got a bottle of Pledge Multi-surface wax. That's the new name for Johnson's Klear, which is the old UK name for Future (apparently). It's about £3 at Asda etc.



It looks slightly milky when you pour it, but it sets clear. As I said, I keep it in a sealable HO-car-shaped pot so I can re-use it for multiple dippings.
 

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What lacquer did you use Lee? I've used Halfords Clear lacquer before with no probs. But the best thing is what Andy suggests I just haven't used it as couldn't find any so a good find there Andy


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QUOTE (woodcote @ 22 Feb 2012, 20:14) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've got a bottle of Pledge Multi-surface wax. That's the new name for Johnson's Klear, which is the old UK name for Future (apparently). It's about £3 at Asda etc.

It looks slightly milky when you pour it, but it sets clear. As I said, I keep it in a sealable HO-car-shaped pot so I can re-use it for multiple dippings.

I've got a an old coffee jar of Astonish floor polish which is the same sort of thing. Ideal for dunking. Best not to store it in an empty milk bottle though
 

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That is a good find Andy, Clive bought loads of the Johnsons stuff while it was still around but good to know there is an alternative.

If you are only doing the odd shell here and there it may be worth asking Clive if he'll coat your finished shells with the Klear/Airbrush combo, still the satisfaction and cost saving of doing it yourself but a guarenteed finish?
 

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Thanks for all of the advice guys, really appreciate all the advice. Just popped out to Tesco's in my lunch break to see if I could find any and the young lad held up a tin of bees wax
I left shortly afterwards empty-handed. Do you think DIY shops would stock an equivelent?
 

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QUOTE (Leet @ 23 Feb 2012, 13:48) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You never fail to deliver heh
those were funny in the 70's!!


Sorry, forgot to take the dried frog pills after lunch, I'm regurgitating ancient jokes, I've also used the bananas from Scotland joke today.
 

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QUOTE (woodcote @ 23 Feb 2012, 15:07) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I checked this morning at Robert Dyas in Brighton - it was on the shelf with the floor cleaners etc. It was £4.65, so more than at Asda. I reckon a specialist old-school hardware shop is more likely to stock it than a supermarket or DIY superstore.

Thanks Andy, I will try and procure some in the next few days, thatnks for that. Going to start to strip the F40 back to base. GOOD LUCK
 

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A quick www search shows Tesco don't do it, explains why I couldn't find any, but Asda & Sainsburys do and both are £3.16.

Good luck with take 2 Lee


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