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· Russell Sheldon
2,846 Posts
Thanks, Fergy! I really enjoyed reading that! Ah, what wonderful days…

As for myself, my professional career has led to a number of overseas assignments, which has unfortunately not always allowed me to race slot cars as much as I would have liked. In fact, I haven't raced slot cars regularly since 1984! "Home" over the past twenty years has been South Africa (three times), France, Belgium, England, and is presently Dubai in the United Arab Emirates. I love the hobby and have never lost interest, managing to keep myself more or less abreast of the latest developments, thanks mainly to the wonders of the Internet and forums such as this!

For me it all started in 1965. My parents didn't have a lot of money and I was very fortunate indeed to receive a small oval Scalextric set for Christmas. Scalextric was the craze at the time, and together with my friends, I "played Scalextric" practically every day after school. At least once a month we would organize a "championship" event, combine our tracks, and build a large layout on the garage floor. We lived in Milnerton, near Cape Town, South Africa, and our opposite neighbour was a very enthusiastic spectator and he often sponsored prizes for our big races.

With the Killarney motor racing circuit within cycling distance from Milnerton, we were also motor racing enthusiasts. We used to arrange our "championship" races to coincide with the big motor races at Killarney and you can imagine our surprise and delight one afternoon, when towards the end of our race a huge Team Gunston transporter pulled up in front of the garage, complete with a Brabham BT20-Repco in the back, and out stepped multiple South African Champion racing driver John Love! Our neighbour had arranged for him to stop by and hand out the prizes - we were overwhelmed!

The hobby really took off and the first commercial raceway centre in Cape Town opened in 1966. "Miniways" had three huge eight lane tracks for racing 1/24th scale cars; a 155' Blue King, a 110' Orange Monarch and a 90' Black Prince. The raceway also had a vast inventory of spare parts and I became interested in building my own cars. 1/24th scale didn't really appeal to me though, because the cars were too big for my Scalextric track, so I raced my home-built 1/32nd scale cars at the raceway, often beating the older boys and adults who were racing 1/24th scale cars.

Late in 1969, by which time the world-wide slot racing boom was already over, the raceway closed down. A group of adult enthusiasts decided to start their own club, the Cambridge Model Car Club, which is still active today, and I joined up. They raced mainly 1/24th scale cars, so I finally converted to the larger scale. Since the early 1960s however, 1/32nd scale club racing has been the mainstay of slot racing in South Africa. The South African Model Car Association (SAMCA) was formed in the early 1960s and is responsible for standards and national championship racing. With Cambridge practically the only club still racing 1/24th scale cars, in early 1970 we decided to convert to 1/32nd scale. A new 6-lane track was built and the club joined SAMCA.

This enabled me to compete in a couple of South African National Championship races, held in Kroonstad in the mid 1970's, which attracted upwards of a 100 or so entries. Along with other club members willing to embark on the 1,000 or so kilometre drive from Cape Town, I really enjoyed competing in these events. It was a great experience and learning ground, although it was only in 1978, after getting married and moving to Durban, that I became really serious about racing at national championship level. In Durban I joined the Ecurie Elite Model Racing Car Club (EEMRCC), founded in 1963 and still active today. It is possibly the oldest surviving slot car racing club in the world.

At that time, the South African National Championship was contested over four rounds, at four different tracks each year, with your best three results counting towards the championship. Slot racing at national level in South Africa has always been extremely competitive and to equal things out, drivers were graded into three classes - A, B and C - depending upon ability and experience, with a national title bestowed upon the winner of each of the classes. The SA National Champion title was awarded to the overall winner in Open Class, regardless of driver grading.

After winning two national races and the C Class title in 1978, I finished third in the championship in 1979, although my only win was at the Pretoria Grand Prix, after an epic duel with fellow SlotForum member and now a US resident, Dennis Samson (Gascarnut). 1980 was my most successful year, winning both the A Class and the South African National Championship titles, despite having to miss the last round of the series due to a military call-up.

I won two of the four Grand's Prix in 1981, but poor results in the other two races left me in third place overall in the championship, although I won the A Class title. I won the A Class title again in 1982, and with another two Grand Prix wins, came second overall in the championship. 1983 brought no national wins, just two second places and a third place, giving me second place in A Class and second in the championship. All in all, between 1978 and 1983, I managed to win 11 races out of 23 that I competed in.

In 1984 we were transferred to France and I stopped all slot racing activity until we moved to Belgium in 1986. After living in Brussels for about two years, I heard about a club in Wesembeek Oppem, which was only about fifteen minutes from where we lived! I joined the club and raced in a few Belgian Open Meetings, but pressure of work did not allow me to become a very good club member.

When we moved to London, I joined the North London Club, but rarely managed to get any regular club nights into my schedule. I did however manage to travel to the national in Cape Town in 1994, taking top British racer Geoff Mitchell with me. It was a great event, which also attracted top Brazilian racer "Gugu" Bernardino. Geoff pulverised the field, with me taking second place.

Being enthused by his experience (besides, Cape Town really is the most beautiful city in the world), Geoff and two other top class British racers, Charlie Gooding and Mark Harrison, went to compete in the race the following year, but by now the South African racers had sussed them out and they were soundly beaten.

I have been fortunate in having raced in a few ESROC/ISRA World Championships; in Ceska Lipa in the former Czechoslovakia, Gateshead in England and Dordrecht in the Netherlands and although "retired", I was invited to compete in the ISRA World's in 2002. Racing in these events gave me the opportunity to meet and befriend some of the best slot car racers and builders in the world, something that I will always treasure.

I enjoy building cars for the proxy races that I enter these days. Proxy racing has also brought about new friendships, even though I haven't actually physically met many of the personalities (proxy friends?). I have however been fortunate to meet Chris Briggs and to race on his track in upstate New York, and SlotForum has enabled me to meet Beppe (Xlot) and Gareth (Jexy).

Beppe, it's your turn next!

With kind regards


· Russell Sheldon
2,846 Posts
This is most disturbing news, Eunice...

I was so looking forward to reading about Howmet's exploits at Tottenham Raceway....

Hmmm... I snapped this photo while visiting the souk this morning...

Does the gentleman holding this copy of your wonderful winter woolie warmer -- upside down, mind -- look familiar?

As soon as I snapped the photo, he dashed out and raced off in this car...

... with an enraged Welshman chasing after him screaming "Haws twyllo maban na gwrachan!" ...

Hope he shows up soon!

Kind regards


· Russell Sheldon
2,846 Posts
"I used to spend hours with one cheek pressed to the floor watching that yellow Jag with it's little nylon clip in the radiator sticking out like a baby's tooth, rush towards me, breeze past the tip of my nose and shoot off under the flyover. Magical!"

"A grocery delivery round (heavy black iron frame bike with big basket mounted over tiny front wheel. I earned my money. Bloody spuds! And don't talk to me about melons. Only ordered by the posh houses."

"From then on, regular bike rides from Teddington Model shop with vast bundles of brass rod, tube and piano wire sellotaped to the crossbar, and a curious bandy-legged cowboy riding style that I still exhibit today."

Howmet, absolutely brilliant writing! Have you ever had any of your work published? The other day I heard about this chap, a store supervisor at a Waitrose branch I think, who had been writing bedtime stories for his kids. He had a book published and has been offered a million dollars by Disney for the movie rights! I have a son at university in Southampton studying journalism. I should have sent him to you instead! I could have given you melons in exchange for tuition, although having moved on from a £7.00 a week wage to shopping at Hamley's for the kids probably means that you could command the entire BBW.

I remember scanning those GT Models ads only too well myself. I had an obsession for slot car bodies like Esmeralda Marcos had for shoes!

"chassis development went into warp drive"

More than anything else, this is what I miss! In my view, laser and EDM cut chassis has killed off the art of scratchbuilding. There is just no way that you can achieve the level of sophistication and the tiny cuts and slits the thickness of a hair with a hand-built chassis. And there is nothing more gratifying than winning races with cars that you have built yourself. This is what I applaud about the World Proxy Race Series that Phil, Chris and Graham have organised -- no laser or EDM cut chassis allowed! I just wish that they would open up the rule on motors a bit more...

Thanks for a wonderful read! Are there pictures of any of the cars you built in any of the old Model Cars magazines?

Kind regards


· Russell Sheldon
2,846 Posts
Personally, I've yet to meet a nicer person than Ernie. I was fortunate to meet him at the ISRA Worlds in Toronto in 1999 and to visit his shop, Raceworld.

Kind regards,


· Russell Sheldon
2,846 Posts
Not sure about that Howmet, but it's entirely feasible that Ernie Mossetti could have designed the fastest milk cart in the west! He definitely designs some of the fastest 1/32nd F1, 1/32nd Eurosport and 1/24th Eurosport chassis anywhere.

For Ernie Mossetti, slot cars are his hobby, passion and livelihood. He opened his first raceway in Scarborough in 1988 and moved to Thornhill in 1995. He cut his teeth at O'Connor Raceway when he was a kid.

I was paging through an old Model Cars magazine and came across a race report from O'Connor Raceway. It was a 1/32nd scale sports car race, held in January 1970. For some strange reason the Canadians only allowed castor oil (!) as a tyre additive, despite the fact that the track had been wiped clean and the cars were slipping and sliding all over the place. Traction was reportedly so bad, that some of the cars were going sideways down the straights! Anyway, the race was won by Michael Powes, a local 1/24th hot-shot, Bob Walton was second, Ed Costa third and one Brian Ferguson was fourth. Our Fergy, perhaps?

Philippe, I'm not sure about Group 20 racing in the US, but in the UK they allowed both Champion and Mura chassis. Champion's was a stamped steel nickel-plated drop-arm chassis with hinged pans and the Mura a brass rod and plate chassis, also nickel-plated.

Kind regards


· Russell Sheldon
2,846 Posts
Philippe, have faith! In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king!

Seriously, I wish you a speedy and full recovery.

I must confess to having thought that Ed Lewis' sidewinders were pretty cool too; Heaven knowns I built more sidewinders than I care to remember! The biggest "find" for me was Blue Tac -- ideal for getting rid of all the magnet filings that stuck to everything!

Philippe, you have been way too modest in your story --

From all accounts, Philippe totally dominated the Western States race, the equivalent of the USRA Nats, back in 1973. The "glue" conditions were heavily affected by a heat wave that California was experiencing at the time, with the track conditions continuously changing. Many of the well-known Pros were unable to handle the conditions; John Cukras, Lee Gilbert, Joel Montague, Monty Ohren, and many other top racers of the time didn't make the main. Philippe raced away from brothers Mike and Billy Steube to record a fine win, with this "diamond" chassis car.

This is an illustration of the car, which Philippe did for one of the magazines (I can't remember which):-

Here are pictures of Philippe's prototype controller that became the Parma Turbo. Pity they didn't retain the micro-switch in the final design, though!:-

Philippe mentioned the time when he headed up R&D at Cox, but failed to mention that, amongst other things, he was responsible for the design of the 1/40th Cox 'Superscale' cars. The chassis design has more than a passing resemblance to the TSRF32 and TSRF24 chassis:-

This is the box art of the Heller McLaren M7A that Philippe designed. Pity that the graphic artist couldn't spell!:-

Finally, congratulations to Philippe on his fantastic win at the recent Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance. Philippe's immaculate Cooper T54, pictured in the foreground, won the Indy car class:-

And in case you think that the Cooper is only a show car, well you're wrong. It's even tackled Lord March's hill. Here's a picture of Philippe driving it in anger at Monterey:-

Kind regards


· Russell Sheldon
2,846 Posts
Hi David

When I first started playing with slot cars, just modifying my Scalextric car to try to get it to go better was a great learning experience.

Perhaps we were a bit more fortunate in those days, in that from the mid 1960s to the early 1970s there were literally hundreds of slot car component manufacturers specialising in bits and pieces for scratchbuilders. Also, as Howmet put it, chassis development went into warp drive -- there were new innovations practically every week.

Take a look at this website to see some more pictures of scratchbuilt chassis from the period we are discussing.

Unfortunately, these days not even the top racers in open class Eurosport scratchbuild their own cars anymore. The laser or EDM cut chassis currently available are superb. They are also available in pre-cut kit form, so anyone with some slodering skill can put one together.

Kind regards


· Russell Sheldon
2,846 Posts
All good points. But....

In my view, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever why metal chassis should represent the ultimate level of chassis development.

Although current state-of-the-art Eurosport chassis are laser or EDM cut spring-steel (by the way, the current "world record" on a King 155 track is 1.54 seconds at 15.98 volts, set by Finland's Jari Portinen) they could very easily be plastic, carbonfibre, or whatever. All it would take is for someone to carry out the development, someone to set a new record or win a big race with it, and all the chassis manufacturers will be producing them.

I had a lot of fun chopping up a TSRF and chassis and joining them together to make this:-

Kind regards


· Russell Sheldon
2,846 Posts
Thanks for posting, David! I really enjoyed your story. If your Mum has stopped knitting, any chance of finding her old patterns and passing them onto Mrs H?

Kind regards


· Russell Sheldon
2,846 Posts
As I recall, the Canadian's were building some very nice looking 1/32nd scale Formula 5000 cars at the time; by contrast, the Brits were running All State Specials and Auto Union Stromlinenwagens!

If you like 1/32nd scale Grand Prix and F1 cars, take a look at this amazing website.

Here's Barry Boor's fantastic rendition of the 1977 F1 grid, all with Betta bodies:-

Kind regards


· Russell Sheldon
2,846 Posts
Hmmm, Bin Laden could be hiding in them thar caves...

Beejay, the shells are still made by Betta. Chas can supply them or you can order directly from Charlie Fitzpatrick. Unfortunately, neither Chas nor Charlie accept credit cards, so if this is your preferred method of payment I would recommend that you order from AB SlotSport.

Here's the full list of Betta 1/32nd Grand Prix / F1 bodies. They are available in 0.007" or 0.010" clear polycarbonate (Lexan) for £2.10 ea; 0.020" clear polycarbonate (Lexan) for £2.60 ea; or 0.030" white styrene (Plasticard) for £2.60 ea.

GRAND PRIX / F1 BODIES (Full size wheelbase: ft ins)

1968 BRM V12 7' 9.500"
1968 HONDA RA 301 7' 10.800"
1968 MATRA V8 7' 11.500"
1969 LOTUS 63 4-W-D 8' 2.000"
1969 McLAREN M7A SIDE TANK 7' 9.600"
1969 McLAREN M9A 4 W.D. 7' 11.000"
1969 McLAREN M10A 8' 0.000"
1969 MATRA MS80 7' 11.000"
1969 MATRA MS84 4-W-D 8' 2.000"
1970 BRABHAM BT33 7' 11.000"
1970 BRM P153 8' 0.000"
1970 DE TOMASO 7' 11.000"
1970 FERRARI 312B 7' 10.500"
1970 LOTUS 72 8' 4.000"
1970 McLAREN M14A 7' 11.300"
1970 MARCH 701 7' 11.000"
1970 MATRA MS120 8' 2.000"
1970 SURTEES TS7 8' 0.000"
1971 BRABHAM BT34 7' 11.000"
1971 LOTUS 56B 8' 6.000"
1971 McLAREN M19A 8' 4.000"
1971 MARCH 711 8' 2.000"
1971 SURTEES TS11 8' 3.000"
1971 TYRRELL 8' 2.000"
1972 BRM P180 8' 4.000"
1972 CONNEW 8' 3.000"
1972 FERRARI 312 B2S 7' 10.500"
1972 JPS LOTUS 8' 4.000"
1972 MARCH 721X 7' 11.000"
1972 TECNO 8' 4.400"
1972 TYRRELL 7' 10.500"
1973 BRABHAM BT42 7' 11.000"
1973 ENSIGN 8' 5.300"
1973 FERRARI 312 B3 8' 2.200"
1973 McLAREN M23 8' 5.000"
1973 MARCH 731/3 7' 11.000"
1973 SURTEES TS14A 8' 6.000"
1973 UOP SHADOW DN1 8' 3.000"
1974 BRABHAM BT44 8' 0.000"
1974 BRM 201 8' 4.000"
1974 FERRARI 312 B3 8' 2.200"
1974 HESKETH 308 8' 4.000"
1974 JPS LOTUS 8' 5.000"
1974 LOLA T370 8' 6.000"
1974 MARCH741 8' 2.000"
1974 TYRRELL 007 8' 6.000"
1975 ENSIGN 8' 5.500"
1975 HESKETH 308C 8' 4.000"
1975 McLAREN M23 8' 8.000"
1975 PENSKE PC1/02 8' 6.000"
1975 SHADOW DN5A 8' 5.000"
1976 BRABHAM BT45 8' 2.000"
1976 FERRARI 312 T2 8' 4.800"
1976 JPS LOTUS 8' 2.000"
1976 SURTEES TS19 8' 2.500"
1976 TYRRELL 34 6-WHEELS 8' 0.500" 8' 10.000"
1976 MATRA LIGIER 8' 4.400"
1976 McLAREN M23 8' 6.000"
1976 MARCH 761 8' 3.000"
1976 SHADOW DN8 8' 6.000"
1977 COPERSUCAR 8' 6.000"
1977 LEC CRP1 8' 6.000"
1977 LOTUS 78 8' 6.000"
1977 McLAREN M26 9' 0.000"
1977 TYRRELL P34 6-WHEELS 8' 0.500" 8' 10.000"
1977 RENAULT RS01 8' 1.500"
1977 WOLF WR1 8' 2.000"
1978 ARROWS FA/1 8' 5.300"
1978 ATS 8' 6.500"
1978 BRABHAM BT45C 8' 2.000"
1978 BRABHAM BT46 8' 4.000"
1978 COPERSUCAR F5A 9' 1.000"
1978 FERRARI 312 T3 8' 4.800"
1978 LIGIER JS9 9' 2.500"
1978 LOTUS 79 8' 11.000"
1978 MARZARIO A2ME 8' 9.000"
1978 TYRRELL 008 8' 6.000"
1978 WOLF WR5 8' 8.000"
1978 WILLIAMS FW06 8' 4.000"
1979 ARROWS A2 8' 10.000"
1979 BRABHAM BT48 9' 0.000"
1979 FERRARI 312T4 8' 10.300"
1979 LIGIER JS11 9' 1.000"
1979 McLAREN M28 9' 5.000"
1979 RENAULT RS11 8' 10.300"
1979 SURTEES TS20 8' 6.000"
1979 WILLIAMS FW07 8' 4.000"
1980 ALFA ROMEO 179 8' 11.900"
1980 TYRRELL 010 8' 10.000"
1980 ARROWS A3 8' 10.000"
1980 McLAREN M30 8' 10.000"
1980 LOTUS 81 8' 11.000"
1980 ENSIGN N180 8' 10.000"
1980 FITTIPALDI F8 8' 7.000"
1980 BRABHAM BT49 9' 0.000"
1980 FERRARI 126C TURBO 8' 10.312"
1981 LIGIER JS17 9' 2.500"
1981 TYRRELL 011 8' 9.500"
1981 ATS 8' 8.000"
1981 OSSELLA FAI 8' 6.800"
1982 FERRARI 126 C2 8' 10.000"
1982 LOTUS 91 9' 0.000"
1982 WILLIAMS FW08 8' 10.000"
1982 TOLEMAN TG183 8' 10.000"
1982 RENAULT RE30 8' 11.000"
1982 ALFA ROMEO 182 8' 11.900"
1982 McLAREN MP4 8' 8.000"
1982 BRABHAM BT50 8' 10.000"
1983 BRABHAM BT52 9' 4.500"
1983 LOTUS 94T 8' 6.000"
1983 TOLEMAN TG183B 8' 10.000"
1983 FERRARI 126 C3 8' 11.000"
1983 RENAULT RE40 8' 11.500"
1983 THEODORE ENSIGN 183 8' 10.500"
1984 McLAREN MP4/2 9' 1.000"
1984 TOLEMAN TG184 9' 2.200"
1984 WILLIAMS FW09 8' 10.000"
1984 ALFA ROMEO 184 8' 11.100"
1985 RAM 03 9' 2.000"
1985 FERRARI 156 9' 0.800"
1985 TYRRELL J14T 9' 0.500"
1985 WILLIAMS FW10 9' 2.000"
1985 LOTUS 97T 8' 11.900"
1985 BRABHAM BT54 9' 7.600"
1985 LIGIER JS25 9' 0.000"
1986 BENETTON BMW B186 8' 10.000"
1986 HASS LOLA FORD THL-2 8' 10.000"
1986 McLAREN MP4/2C 9' 1.000"
1986 ARROWS BMW 9' 7.000"
1986 BRABHAM BT55 9' 7.000"
1987 FERRARI 187 9' 0.125"
1987 ZAKSPEED 871 9' 1.000"
1988 LOTUS HONDA 100T 9' 2.000"
1988 MINARDI COSWORTH V8 8' 9.500"
1988 McLAREN MP4/4 9' 1.000"
1988 MARCH 881 9' 0.000"
1988 USF & G ARROWS 10B 8' 11.500"
1989 FERRARI F640 9' 3.500"
1989 WILLIAMS RENAULT FW12C 9' 6.000"
1989 DALLARA FORD BMS 9' 0.000"
1989 LAMBORGHINI LOLA LC89 9' 8.000"
1989 BENETTON B189 DFV 9' 6.500"
1989 ONYX FORD ORE1 9' 4.000"
1990 TYRRELL 019 9' 1.000"
1990 MINARDI M190 9' 7.000"
1990 LOTUS 102 9' 8.000"
1991 FERRARI 642 9' 3.500"
1991 WILLIAMS FW14 9' 8.000"
1991 McLAREN HONDA MP4/6 9' 7.000"
1991 JORDAN 911 9' 7.400"
1991 BENNETTON 191 9' 4.200"
1992 LIGIER JS37 9' 6.300"
1992 FOOTWORK FA13 9' 7.000"
1992 LOTUS FORD 107 9' 8.000"
1993 McLAREN FORD MP4/8 9' 5.000"
1994 FERRARI 412 TI 9' 8.250"
1994 LARROUSSE FORD 9' 8.000"
1994 BENETTON B194 9' 7.500"
1994 WILLIAMS FW16 9' 8.000"
1995 SAUBER C14 9' 7.000"
1995 WILLIAMS RENAULT FW17 9' 8.000"
1995 TYRRELL 023 YAMAHA V10 9' 5.800"
1996 FERRARI F310 V10 9' 6.500"
1996 JORDAN 196 9' 7.500"
1996 McLAREN MP 4/11 9' 7.000"
1996 TWR ARROWS 9' 7.800"
1997 PROST MUGEN HONDA 9' 8.000"
1998 FERRARI F300 V10 9' 8.000"
1998 McLAREN MERCEDES MP4-13 9' 7.000"
1998 STEWART SF2 FORD 9' 8.000"
1999 BAR V10 9' 8.000"
2000 JAGUAR R1 V10 9' 10.000"
2000 JORDON MUGAN HONDA 9' 10.000"
2002 TOYOTA TF 102 9' 8.500" (NEW)
2002 BMW WILLIAMS FW24 V10 9'8.5" (NEW)
2002 RENAULT R2002 9'9" (NEW)

Other open-wheel cars:-

1968 EAGLE FORD IND 8' 0.500"
1968 LOTUS 56 WEDGE IND 8' 6.000"
1969 LOLA T142 8' 0.000"
1969 SURTEES TS5 8' 0.000"
1970 McLAREN M15 IND 8' 2.700"
1971 LOLA T300 8' 5.000"
1971 McLAREN M16 IND 8' 5.000"
1972 CHEVRON B24 8' 4.000"
1972 MATICH REPCO A50 8' 7.000"
1973 EAGLE IND 8' 6.000"
1973 LOLA T330 8' 6.000"
1973 PARNELLI IND 8' 7.500"
1973 TROGEN 8' 4.000"
1974 BRABHAM BT43 8' 6.000"
1974 McREE GM2 8' 7.000"
1975 LOLA T400 8' 6.000"
1976 FOYT COYOTE IND 8' 6.000"
1979 CHAPPARAL 2K IND 8' 10.000"
1980 ORBITAR ONE IND 8' 10.000"
1983 MARCH 84C IND 9' 3.000"
1984 LOLA T800 IND 9' 3.500"
1988 PENSKE PC17 IND 9' 2.000"
1988 LOLA T88/00 IND 9' 3.500"
1993 LOLA FORD T93/06 IND 9' 3.400"
1993 PENSKE PC22 CHEV. IND 9' 3.0"

Beware that most of the bodies from around 1990 onwards are "BSCRA/ISRA" spec, so may not be too scale. They are generally okay, its just that the wings are a bit bigger than they ought to be.

From around 2000 onwards, they become plain silly in terms of shape:-

At least ISRA has mandated scale colour schemes for F1, so the cars don't look too bad, except for the silly wheels:-

Images courtesy of Streakers.

Kind regards


· Russell Sheldon
2,846 Posts
"Russell, I am not here to hurt your feelings, I actually like these cars but I feel that they have and continue to cause harm to the hobby in general."

Philippe, I don't disagree! This is a picture of the last F1 car that I built -- for you, if I remember correctly....

Kind regards

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