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OK; we got the ugliest and the most beautiful. Now I want to know the most dismally hopeless, least successful racing car ever built. Whether a glorious failure, idiotically misguided, over-hyped, or simply badly built. I would love to see them.
My suggestion, just to get the ball rolling, would be the '67 Shelby King Cobra Can-Am car, but there are plenty more like that......
 

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With out a doubt Its got to be my own fiat x19 which was unsucessfully campaigned in one event and then retired gracefully and sold to some other unsuspecting fool .Probably the biggest turkey I ever bought even though it looked the part ,the emarasment of this car followed me for several years after.
 

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McLaren MP4-19
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Ok, not exactley a dismall failure, but still a disapointment! I'm a big fan of Mclaren (I used to live 2miles away from Woking - home of Mclaren) and its a real shame that they are having difficulties this year. Better luck for the next season....

Anyway, How about the Yugo GVX?
 

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How about the Ford P68 (3L), hardly a worldbeater, but I think Graham's Fiat will take some beating!.

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PS Is there ANY chance I can get rid of this Damn Sig picture soon?
 

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Sorry BJ- if it's an embarrassment to us both....
The Xylon makes slow progress. Persistent noises remind me that there are other members of the family about, and I keep having to cover it up to avoid distress.
I'll put some photos in Scratchbuilding soon for the masochistic amongst us.

Great entries for the cock-up comp., though. Stories and pics would be nice!
I like ambitious big expensive cars that blow up on the first lap and get towed away under a blanket never to be seen again.
I'd like to give Grah the sympathy prize immediately, but I think there's a way to go on this one yet.
 

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My nomination for the idiotically misguided category goes to the Eiffeland Formula 1 team.
Here is an excerpt from F1rejects.com:-
But tucked away in the annals of unorthodoxy, confined to the isolation ward, was the Eifelland Type 21 of 1972. As many readers might realise, the Eifelland Wohnwagenbau company has been a well-known caravan manufacturer in Germany for several decades.

Designer Luigi Colani describing his design philosophy:-
"The earth is round, all the heavenly bodies are round; they all move on round or elliptical orbits. This same image of circular globe-shaped mini worlds orbiting around each other follows us right down to the microcosmos. We are even aroused by round forms in species propagation related eroticism. Why should I join the straying mass who want to make everything angular? I am going to pursue Galileo Galilei's philosophy: my world is also round."

....and here it is:-



Quite beautiful I think.
 

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I think the 1962 ATS grand prix car that the then current world champion Phil Hill "raced" must be the worst ever.
It was built in a farmhouse and they had to remove a wall when it was finished to get it out of the building!
The car's debut was postponed and postponed until it eventually raced the following season and even then it was 12 seconds off the pace at it's first race. It didn't finish a race until the Italian GP when it covered itself in glory by finishing eleventh.
One final qualification for being the worst car ever - not having learnt their lesson about removing factory walls to get the car out - the team also had to hacksaw bits of the the chassis space frame to get the engine out!!

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What about the 1:1 version of the Lister Storm that Scaley just released. I'm sure that I've read that it didn't even make it through its debut practice session.......
 

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There are those TVR T400Rs sponsored by De-Walt too... In the Scalextric Racer mag there was an article about the 1:1 versions - on their Debut appearance they suffered mechanical problems
 

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QUOTE big expensive cars that blow up on the first lap
A couple of weeks back I visited Donington to witness some glorious Thoroughbred GP cars in action. Great stuff! However, the Grande Finale for the day was a bit of a mixed bag: 5 cars participating in a 30 minute unspectacular. There was an old Beamer, Escort Mk.1, Lotus Elan, and bringing up the rear of the grid two deTomaso Panteras.

One of the Panteras barely made it back to the pits without completing a lap while the other packed in just a short while after. They say every dog has it's day but on that day the Pantera was a dog!

It has to be said they looked and sounded
tho'
 

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How about "Smokey" Yunick's "side-saddle" car built for the 1964 Indianapolis 500?

It was called the Hurst Floor Shift Special and featured a catamaran-like layout, with the driver placed in a pod adjacent to a second pod containing the engine, front and rear suspension, fuel tank, and radiator:-



Unfortunately, neither Duane Carter Sr. nor Bobby Johns were able to make it "raceworthy".

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Howmet, maybe you'd put some limit, otherwise the list may be endless only with cars that were so bad they were never used in race, like McLarem MP4-19, Ferrari 312B3 Spazzaneve or Cosworth 4WD (well, maybe any F1 4WD project deserve to be in the list.)

Also, there are too many overambitious attempt to built a race car, like the Eifelland; F1rejects.com is full of such examples: most of them were italians...


With the limit of "big failure of a well respected and successful team", I'd say
Chaparral 2H and the first version of Ferrari 312 B3-1973.

In 1973 ing. Mauro Forghieri fell in disgrace and the new F1 was designed by the unknown Ing. Sandro Colombo, but the car was a complete disaster (also a good challenger for the uglyest car...), the poor Jackie Ickx got only a 5th and 6th placement, the car was so bad that it was dropped at mid season and Ickx had the permission to race at Nurburgring with McLaren... So Forghieri went back and, after the unsuccesful Spazzaneve, designed the new version of 312B3, which almost won 1974 championship.

Well, BRM H16 and Ford J are good challengers, too!

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And may I respectfully submit that previous posters to this thread are showing their youth and/or their focus on recent racing history only? :cool:

The hands-down winner in my view is the 1935 Monaco Trossi.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/leif.snellman/c8b.htm (english description)

http://osiris.teccart.qc.ca/~leduc_denis/a...naco_trossi.htm (pictures of the still-existing car, which resides in the Museo dell'Automobile in Turin )

Top this one, if you can! :cool:

I have a book in my library (somewhere!) on the world's worst or most unsuccessful racing cars, by a British author, but I cannot for the life of me recall the title or the author and my online searches have come up empty. Anyone recall the book to which I refer?
 

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Among the cars that were actually campaigned, may I respectively submit the:
- Cheetah
- Lotus 30/40

Not totally unsuccessful (a couple finishes, if not wins), but for the effort expended....

And among the never-rans, my personal favorite is the erstwhile CanAm contender, the MAC's IT Special, with four snommobile engines, one for each wheel...

If you like Indy cars, try to find a copy of the book called "132 of the most unusual cars ever to run at Indianapolis", by Engel. It has a Hurst and a bunch of others...

cheers,
Don

(for you US/UK language buffs, I've gotten to like "cheers", but will never, ever use "amongst" or "whilst")
 
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