Villeneuve Pironi: Racing's Untold Tragedy

Seconded.

Although they pad it a tad I loved the line - was it Jackie's? - that racing drivers shouldn't be given helicopter licences.

Also, left me drawing parallels between the then Ferrari team and the now Red Bull squad. 🤨

Red Bull inter team rivalry is bubbling away nicely, then there's the shots of Jos after the chequered flag, talk about sore loser, didn't look like that after they, er, won the championship two years ago.

Untold my @rse. Covered in extraordinary detail at the time and many times thereafter.

If you haven't read Gerald Donaldson's book on Villeneuve, you're not an F1 fan. Period.

Much like slot car makers choosing to make the car that Gilles died in and which Pironi was crippled in, why don't we have a documentary about all the things that were mega about Villeneuve - starting, overtaking, cornering, attitude - and let's have a few more T4s, T5s and 126Cs in slot form.

A thread on good motorsport books to read wouldn’t go a miss especially as someone born in the 80s. In the last few years I’ve read quick vic’s book, Brian Redmans and David Hobbs. The Jenks book (mainly motorsport articles) is a good one too.

A_S said:

A thread on good motorsport books to read wouldn’t go a miss especially as someone born in the 80s.

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Look out for Nigel Roebuck’s books and articles.

Kirbs50 said:

Look out for Nigel Roebuck’s books and articles.

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yes I know nigel but was thinking more specific

driver#8 said:

Untold my @rse. Covered in extraordinary detail at the time and many times thereafter

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But never with quite so much camera-to-the-ground-at-speed footage of tarmac whistling past to pad things out.

driver#8 said:

Untold my @rse. Covered in extraordinary detail at the time and many times thereafter.

If you haven't read Gerald Donaldson's book on Villeneuve, you're not an F1 fan. Period.

Much like slot car makers choosing to make the car that Gilles died in and which Pironi was crippled in, why don't we have a documentary about all the things that were mega about Villeneuve - starting, overtaking, cornering, attitude - and let's have a few more T4s, T5s and 126Cs in slot form.

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Here Here....................Donaldson's book is a fantastic piece of work !

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But never with quite so much camera-to-the-ground-at-speed footage of tarmac whistling past to pad things out.

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Sounds grisly. At least the rushed-out Formula Villeneuve film from 1983 has Enzo making Enzo noises on it.

My Dad bought a video recorder so that when he bought me the VHS cassette for my birthday I'd be able to watch it. Of course, we didn't think that the actual crash would be on there in slow motion, thereby traumatising me all over again. But there's some lovely stuff in there...

I thought it was great. Sometimes I feel people just need to lighten up and enjoy things for what they are.

I was very young when Villeneuve lost his life. I remember looking at a haunting image of Villeneuve in one of Lauda's biography books, I was enraptured. I had no idea who he was or what he achieved. Villeneuve lost his life the same year I received my very first Scalextric set.

My first set began my interest in F1 and I started to watch races with my Dad. There are many great drivers, and to this day, I would say, Villeneuve is my favourite. Clark was the other.

I don't have Sky, will this film be available via streaming or DVD/Blu-Ray?