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Is a phrase i've picked up a lot over the last few years, and why don't so many clubs le peoplet run newer faster cars , this is stopping new interest in the sport, surely rules bloody rules can be adjusted to let all enjoy.
I no longer race in a club as there ain't any round here , but when i did i liked to try the newer cars , i'm not stuck in the past where i try to resurect my old Ninco, i can't get the parts for it so we would all be in the same pot scrabbling around trying to keep the old tank going so i buy a new Slot it, NSR, Thunderslot instead, and enjoy the enhanced performance .
Low and behold i buy those terrible out of scale nasty nasty Thunderslots , why because they look good , go good and do me good driving them at racing speeds,, i have always thought that progress is what keeps things going along.
Don't get me wrong i love the old cars which mostly i have updated but i will get told sorry mate you can't race that we don't allow that here at this club which seems to be the way of lots of you.
Now this might wake up the dead and the dying chuckle. 😎
 

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You'd have no such problems at our club, next time you're visiting the Isle of Man bring your slot cars.
 
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Wood Green North London is the place for you Mr Gunn.

It's very much the modifiers club. We do have a couple of near stock classes, Group C being the strictest, even then, gear/pinion changes are allowed and for 2022 all points scoring rounds all cars must have 1mm clearance under the motors. All cars run on Ortmann tyres.

The rules are sooooo relaxed that I'm considering entering a Sideways BMW M6 GT3 in our Touring car class! Yes, even thought it says "GT3" on the wings. As long it's a 4 seater saloon, even 2 door coupe, it's apparently OK as a Touring car.

We have choice of 4 motors, Slot It MX15 (21k), Slot It Flat 6 yellow, ScaleAuto Tech-1 S Can & odd ones ....Fly Evo2 or Ninco NC2, yes no one is bothering with the last 2. It's either Flat 6 or the Scale Auto. In-line or sidewinder only set up.

I don't agree with it so it's a bit of protest entry to show the absurdity of current rules. I expect things will tighten up for 2023. For now, the extra wheel base and track might have an advantage of standard Slot it Calibra, Merc and Alfa 155's. There are 3 well sorted 3d chassis SCX touring currently leading the charge. I have tested the M6 with in-line flat 6, nothing special and not quicker or easier to drive the Calibra with the ScaleAuto motor. So this set up with ScaleAuto motor in-line is my last attempt, with a gear ratio change possibly....

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Saloons is the biggest headache of all, Bentley Continental GT...4 seater..."but it's a GT" yes but it's not a 'Sports' so what class does it go in?

Spirit Peugeot 406 Coupe...another problem car but goes in our Saloons but definitely only has one seat.
 

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That Calibra is looking good to chase the leading trio of 3d chassis SCX cars.

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I'd like the M6 to better the Calibra, taking advantage of the longer wheel base and wider track, all within the specs for this class.

Background Ninco Jag's with the excellent Amato chassis, old cars back in action for Good Wood

It's not a touring car in the same class, really???
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I have one of those Scalextric Bentley GT's with 3d chassis doing nothing, all set up and no where to race, I might look at that again.

I'd like to see this class go the same route as Group C, making it an exclusive Slot It class.

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Is a phrase i've picked up a lot over the last few years, and why don't so many clubs le peoplet run newer faster cars , this is stopping new interest in the sport, surely rules bloody rules can be adjusted to let all enjoy.
I no longer race in a club as there ain't any round here , but when i did i liked to try the newer cars , i'm not stuck in the past where i try to resurect my old Ninco, i can't get the parts for it so we would all be in the same pot scrabbling around trying to keep the old tank going so i buy a new Slot it, NSR, Thunderslot instead, and enjoy the enhanced performance .
Low and behold i buy those terrible out of scale nasty nasty Thunderslots , why because they look good , go good and do me good driving them at racing speeds,, i have always thought that progress is what keeps things going along.
Don't get me wrong i love the old cars which mostly i have updated but i will get told sorry mate you can't race that we don't allow that here at this club which seems to be the way of lots of you.
Now this might wake up the dead and the dying chuckle. 😎
You need to come down the South West, Woodland Fort in Plymouth to be precise, we have classes for everything, from standard Scaley/SCX/Ninco (Production Saloons) to Libre where the car of choice is a Richard Mack Genesis chassis, we allow modified or scratchbuilt cars in all classes (saloon has it's own Pro class)
 

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Is a phrase i've picked up a lot over the last few years, and why don't so many clubs le peoplet run newer faster cars , this is stopping new interest in the sport, surely rules bloody rules can be adjusted to let all enjoy.
Um? Someone rattled your cage this morning, Mr Gunn? Whatever, I think I need a citation to back up the sweeping, 'this is stopping new interest in the sport' claim. It is? Really? Really? 🧐

Also one for how our hobby became a "sport".🤔

I would say this, not everyone is a speed-crazed moron wanting to run faster cars. Not everyone wants to fork out for new releases. I'm currently a bit frustrated that Revoslots aren't currently exciting enough punters at Oxford to make a class likely. Ditto, very sadly, Sideways. But when a club only just has enough members to make it viable you gotta go with the consensus.

Maybe, since you're motivated and don't have a club nearby, set one up, set the rules 'n' reg's and see how it goes? 🤷‍♂️
 

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I have my own club here Mr Wankel ( hope i spelt that right chuckle ) and have only 4 rules .
1. Drivers must bring their own drinks , prefebly single malt.
2. No food to be eaten by the race track , encourages the spiders.
3. All drivers must take a turn at marshalling,
4 Ladies to wear trousers, bending over in short skirts distracts the drivers.

Simple rules and a great evening is normally had by everyone especially after the 4th scotch , being serious for a nano second , done all or nearly all you suggested , still have no real club which i miss a lot , and still beleive in less rules the better fun.
 

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One might argue that the thing that you don’t allow is regulation or standardisation.

There’s always a balance to strike, which some clubs and organisers achieve better than others.

Slot car racing is one of the few competitive disciplines which can represent a different thing to every single person in the room. Trying to please them all, is of course, impossible.
 

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This is and always will be a contentious subject, but rules in general are always instigated to slow down the fast drivers never to force the slower guys to speed up ,shame but it has always been thus,
example ,if someone finds a massive performance improvement within the rules the default position is prohibit or ban never ,make everyone adopt it so you can all go quicker.
and as they say
if I’m wrong I’ll give you the money myself
but I think my dinner money still safe for now:D
 

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This is and always will be a contentious subject, but rules in general are always instigated to slow down the fast drivers never to force the slower guys to speed up
I mean. They could always just learn to drive faster? I think Mr zero5 argues this in another topic just yesterday..

If more honest conversations were had around the fact the “fast guys” are fast because they’re actually good drivers and not just because of their car choice or spec then maybe rule makers would not need to create this artificial barrier that prohibits the inevitable rainbow chasing of the back markers who think they’ll just go a bit quicker if they had the latest XYZ..
 

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I no longer race in a club as there ain't any round here
If you are no longer racing at a club and you can still hear the voices, may be it's time to cut down on the single malt ;)
example ,if someone finds a massive performance improvement within the rules the default position is prohibit or ban never ,make everyone adopt it so you can all go quicker.
Alan, surely it's the other way round, those who find massive improvement are tinkerers and checkbook racers, not fast drivers.
Fast drivers are rewarded by club classes were all cars are equal and their superior driving skills can make the difference.


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If more honest conversations were had around the fact the “fast guys” are fast because they’re actually good drivers and not just because of their car choice or spec then maybe rule makers would not need to create this artificial barrier that prohibits the inevitable rainbow chasing of the back markers who think they’ll just go a bit quicker if they had the latest XYZ..
Never a truer word spoken.

It's the perennial problem with motorsport at every level. Too many drivers overrate their own ability and underrate that of the fast guys, choosing instead to believe that if only they had better equipment, they'd be winners. The only real answer to that is to run club-car classes where everyone drives the same cars.
 

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Thinking back to when i was a club racer in the early days it was all a learning curve, Friday night was race night , Saturday was tinkering trying to improve from others there who were either faster than you or had faster cars , their is a differance.
Kevan has hit one nail on the head to up performance e.g tyres and prepping tyres, i have been amazed over the years how many drivers don't put out decent tyres , seen some right horrors doing proxies , and the owner wants to know why his car is a dog .
It's all in the prep , and ability , my brother was faster than me just a fact but in endurance racing i always beat him, why ? i was more consistant over the longer period and stayed in the slot , which is another way of being faster, stay in the slot.
Dopamine is right about club cars but even then we found one car was just that little bit better than it,s stable mates , a lot of the time is being consistant that is the name of the game , drive in your own ability not others.
 
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