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Well Mountain Shopping Mall Rally

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Hi there....
Well I'm starting a new smallish rally layout, build from Scalextric Sports and Classic track.

Here is a little video of the prototype shopping mall, I'm gonna build the track as a football stadium with the carriers for each floor coming from the back so as not to interrupt the line of sight with pillars carrying the floor above.

One purpose of this build is to make it so that it can be assembled and disassembled fast.
3 floors and 3 bridges, when packed away I plan on storing it on the wall.

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Thanks for all the nice comments.
Basically it would probably be much easier just to route it, but as usually I do have quite a bit of bits and bobs from the bay of E so plastic it is :)

QUOTE (martini917k @ 14 Oct 2009, 04:18) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>could you possibly diagram that?

Well I've tried to do a little video of it instead of using photoshop to edit the trackpieces after drawing it in U.R.
I never use a track program to make tracks but allways just go haywire on the floor.
so here it goes:

The ground floor:
&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6"><{POST_SNAPBACK}>Man, it is hilarious! The idea of racing with one's belly on the floor is another step in the enjoyment ladder. Of course it is also another step towards being stepped upon by one's wife.

One of the advantages of rug racing is being steped on by your own wife....especialy if she wears high heels :)

I'm gonna add legs so it can be build in different heights for the little people and the tall people.

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Hi all here is a little video update of work in progress.


Comments, suggestions & ideas are as always welcomed.

cheers & enjoy life
QUOTE (FZSsemans® @ 18 Oct 2009, 16:07) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>suggestions?? man I love this track! MORE MORE MORE!!

thx Peter

I'm considering to put in a tiny basement layer as well :)

QUOTE (sealevel @ 18 Oct 2009, 20:46) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Excellent video of your construction.
I look forward to "next week's installment".
This could become a "slot car serial", too!


My camera broke and I need to buy a new lense, so I've been thinking a bit to do this track thread with video only :)
But I'm a bit ashamed of my accent and mumble jumble as I make everything up as I go.

So if anyone want's to see how I(...and it might not be the right way to do it) create something give me a shout about it and I'll see if I can document it in some way.

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Hi Graham and thanks for stopping by.

I'm gonna make scenery for it, but my main objective is to create the modules so that they can be easily connected as individual floors in the parking lot or as individual modules spread around on the floor.
Or with a T-Piece I can connect it to my mountain as well.

So flexibility, lightweight and ease of use is my main concerns.

Since it's a single lane layout It's gonna be great for hooking up a digital powerbase and have a round of "chase the other car" persuit I think it's called.
Add some drift cars into the equation and you'll have your self some stock car action :)

On another note I miss your sustaining presence here in the scenery department, and I'm eagerly awaiting what you've got up your sleeve.

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Hi there
Here's a little driving update from the Well Mountain Shopping Mall

I'm pretty ,much done, eliminating books so now I can hopefully make some Borders/Barriers tonight. (They are badly needed now !!!

thanks for watching.....
Thanks all for the interest and kind comments.

QUOTE (sig @ 2 Nov 2009, 21:28) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>you've got a seriously three dimensional brain to come up with that...fantastic of course, cant wait to see how you finish it off, how do the 2 wheel drive stuff get on with the steep ramps?

2 wheel cars goes fine as well thanks, and cars goes a lot faster the other way around due to the steep entrance ramp and the not so steep exit ramp.
As to my 3 dimensional brain..I'm not too sure... hmmm well at least I dream in colour and with sound :)

QUOTE (Miker @ 2 Nov 2009, 21:48) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Chuppy rubber dub dub Lars maan

Superb concept. Can't wait to see the main structure be built around this track. Will really fool visitors when they come to race, I had enough trouble following the vid, expecting the car to go one way, and goes a completely different one

Chuppy chup 'till you drop brudder

When driving for a fast lap, you really have to keep your eyes on the car at all times, and forgetting to count how many rounds you did in a layer will send you flying.

QUOTE (Brad Korando @ 3 Nov 2009, 01:50) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That's amazing Lars! Fantastic concept and layout. Now I realize that you have a rally theme in mind, but if you ever want to take a little break: promise me that you'll recreate the Ferrari parking garage scene from Ferris Bueller's Day Off!


He he, I remember that one
I just hired the guy with the ponytail as Car Park Manager, I guess I shoud have checked his credentials a little bit better :)

I'm really in a dilemma as to how I'll decorate it.
On one side I can see it as this brand new Hi tech funkes parking lot with a helipad and a tower with a carousel cafeteria at the top.
On the other it could be somewhere deep in the hood, worn down with graffiti on the walls, burning barrels with people standing around, custom cars with those hydraulic jump thingies showing off, a looted and burned out car here and there, and some homeless people in the corners.

I'm thinking of making the facades in cardboard and attach them using Velcro tape then using photo textures on top of the cardboard maybe I could skin it differently from time to time ?????

thanks all
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QUOTE (sig @ 3 Nov 2009, 10:59) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>start with the underclass ghetto on the basement, up to the middle class wannabees and finally into the 3rd floor jet set hi flyers?
the game is in what layer do you fall off....or you reach the top and then woops right down to the bottom again...much like real life!

I love that one :)

I have actually been thinking a lot about Blade Runner while doing this layout as well as a comic book series written by Alejandro Jodorowsky and illustrated by Jean Girard Moebius called The Incal.
Even if your not into comics this is a must read anyway :)

Further more Fritz Lang's Black'n' White Metropolis has been lurking around in my mind.

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Here is a little update on how I weld track pieces together (Sorry no driving)
wow I had never seen that one(Blues Brothers I have...many times), it's amazing, I love it when he says "125 hp is really all you need on marble". And when the classical music takes over it's just so nice and easy.

"we've got a full tank of gas we've got cigarets, and we've got sunglasses........."

thanks for the input, makes me think that I'm not completely mad, and gives me some ideas to maybe make some of the scenery inside like :) instead of only a parking lot......hmmm how to comprehend this...
QUOTE (J Sin @ 15 Nov 2009, 08:00) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think its

Its a 106 miles to Chicago.
We've got a full tank of gas,
half a pack of cigarettes,
its dark, and we're wearing sunglasses
thx, you're right, a bit rusty on my BB quotes

QUOTE (Ember @ 15 Nov 2009, 08:38) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You need a Blues Mobile Psrrfh. Cop tyres... Cop suspension... etc etc

Ohh yes, but there are so many nice cars out there and I really can't afford any of them, I havn't bought a car in more than a year!!!!! not even used..

QUOTE (SplitRim @ 15 Nov 2009, 09:32) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>WOW!!! PSRRFH

Just found this thread, and was seriously impressed, but couldnt figure the "Well Mountain" connection as I'm sure there are no mountains in Denmark.

Then as I was checking out the youtube vid of connecting tracks I found the others you had posted....................................

Well Mountain is awesome

Nice to see my pal Malatwolves getting good results in the SCX proxy.

Look forward to seeing most posts on both of these as I am now seriously addicted to building a rally stage in a similair( although smaller) vane.


Thanks, I'll be looking forward for your build, when racing alone Rally is the perfect format, and if all the track is within reach you don't kill your self running to the end of the table to retrieve a stray car:)

The cars that Malatwolves entered for the proxy was very nice(Most of them were) especially his ferrari as it was so quiet and smooth as well as fast, and his Lancia Delta was just a monster on wheels(I think the real 1:1 thing was supposed to be unpredictable)
Next SCX round will be at one of oldslotracer's amazing tracks and I can't wait to see how the cars will do there.

thanks all for watching,
You guys have no idea of how boring it is to sit around starring at 3 floors of drywall mud drying. it's been all most a week now !!!! and then I'll have to wait for another week to work on it again. :-(

The Incal is just one amazingly good science fiction Comic, unfortunately I sold my comic book collection many years ago, still kicking my pretty behind to this day

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have a nice day on Wednesday and I'll be looking forward to your track build.
Ohh and as for the mountains in Denmark you are absolutely spot on however the place that I build my tracks are called Well Mountain(In danish of course) basically it's a very steep piece of land/Mud/patches of grass/clay, at my uncles farm.

Time for a rather lengthy vid update(6 minutes +)
It does have a little test driving with a digital Aston on unsanded drywall mud.
All so it deals with how I connect and rip apart the shopping mall, and how I've applied the drywall mud.
Hope it'll be of some use to somebody.

chips and dips
You're right, the butter knife that I use in the video was perfect for mountains and border areas on my mountain modules, but for these larger flat areas it's much better to use one of the big spartulas(Is that the name) that you get at the hardware store.

Sometime I wonder how many man-decades has been wasted by people using the wrong tools :-(

On another note the small butter knife is good for shaping small details while it's still wet.
And one side is rippled and the other side is flat, so it gives me a bit of choice(wow a knife has two sides)

Hi Bruno I'm not sure what kind of details you have in mind, however since drywall mud takes ages to dry(the cheap stuff) I tend to keep layers as thin as possible
On this build I've tried different approaches on the 3 layers on the ground floor I used corrugated cardboard almost the same height as the track so I only needed a very thin layer to make the borders level, very fast and it dried up ready for the final layer in a day.

on the floor I used thinner corrugated cardboard and hence I had to add about 5-6 millimeters of mud and it took about a week for it to dry !!!!!!
Same thing on the city square on my rally/sprint thread where I removed all the plastic and replaced it with drywall mud it took about a week to dry too.

The thing is that when the initial thick layer is in place it's pretty fast to do repairs and additional layers as the now dry mud kinda sucks up the moist better than cardboard or expander foam(I guess)

Don't worry too much about the sanding, I do it by hand and it doesn't take a lot of effort or muscle thats the easy part(just keep a vacuum cleaner within reach)
If you use a machine you have to where a mask and go outside.

chips and chops.....
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QUOTE (Ember @ 17 Nov 2009, 11:07) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Of course they'd be man-decades. It would be only woman-hours.
Some of us learn quicker

However they'd still be talking about how they feel about the end result :)
But you are right women are a lot smarter than men.

Here's a little flashback in this shopping mall soap opera, from before the drywall mud.
basically it's about cutting up corrugated cardboard strips and attaching them using Glue and a staple gun.
Testdriving is done with a Ninco police car.

Chips & chaps
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If you mean the White piece of styrofoam, it's a piece that I found from some corner protection and I thought it looked kinda like an elevator shaft entrance, I don't have clearence all the way to the ground floor unfortunately :-(
A little rug racing using the ground floor module and teaching my sun to jump the cliffs of despair.


flips and flaps
Straight line is key. And enough speed. damage to the guide getting caught, due to too little speed can happend on this "Open jump", where as jumps based on continuesly track like slotcarman say, is safer guide wise.
I have jumped it with the Ninco Ford truck which have a drop arm , but no led. I think a droparm with led would be caught in the open version.
imho the old scaley catching system works well, and can be blended into scenery pretty easily.
but maybe the scenery could take an active part in recorvering stray cars eg. if the car jumped into a "Cement canal" thingie like in Terminator 2 with the truck chase the boy scene. ofcourse detailed mirrors goes bye bye in this approach but who jumps theire Racer anyways ??

entrance height is heigher than exit height, thats why I use the pitlane to go around the jump on the way back.
Here is some close up images of the flying leap used in the video

The flying Leap:

Total Length:

Jump length:

Riverbed Dimensions:

Riverbed Heights:

Broken Bridge Piece:

I think the red plastic catchers are about 1.5 milimeters thick.

And for the bold and adventuorous here is the loop

From the side:

Here is some awesome inspiration, watch the jump at 1.04(Led in drop arm in action )

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A little progress and then some problems towards the end...
I'm a little Jinxed at the moment.
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Have a very nice Christmas and a Happy new year.
I have pretty good experience with masking tape, but I've never seen anything like this happen before.
Or not to this extent.
I have a suspicion about the paint used could be the sinner as well as the dust explanation in the video.

ohh well there is nothing like doing a tedious job twice....NOT grrrrr.
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