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WHAT IS YOUR `HOLY GRAIL` CAR

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I`ve been collecting long enough to know which cars are rare but my question is more personal. Which car are you searching for that perhaps the guys here can help you find. So what have you been trying to add to your collection but just cannot pin one down?

For me it`s the older SCX 6 wheeled Tyrell, boxed and mint. I see a few at swapmeets etc but I want one in mint condition. I saw one at Seans a couple of years ago for £85 and didn`t get it, fool that I am. What about you guys? Anyone rich enough to be seeking that Scalextric blue Bugatti or an Auto Union
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QUOTE Any clues about where to find one?

Not seen a live one in quite a few years now...
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Well, the Rattler does seem to qualify great
as a "Holy Grail" then, n'est ce pas?
Or maybe THE Holy Grail...

Fortunately, I've got a few.
But no MIB, or MIPWBB.


Maybe you could shed some light on this:
One of my Rattlers has the regular 2 piece brass chassis.
The other one has the same chassis, but not made of brass.
It's not aluminum, but some kind of thin sheet steel.
Why's that? Did Jim run out of brass in the end?
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Chaparrals. There are so many that haven't been modeled yet. I'm very excited about the upcoming MRRC 2F.

Regards,
Steve (at the Trace)
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QUOTE Maybe you could shed some light on this:
One of my Rattlers has the regular 2 piece brass chassis.
The other one has the same chassis, but not made of brass.
It's not aluminum, but some kind of thin sheet steel.
Why's that? Did Jim run out of brass in the end?

Brass: Russkit and Russkit leftover to Parma.
Zinc-plated steel: Parma.
The complete cars fitted with the rare Russkit 28 are elusive indeed, but the chassis shows up time to time on E-Pay.

Regards,

Doc Pea
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Frankly, I saw a Russkit MIB Rattler Mako Shark that a fellow collector here got, and my reaction was "bof!" (French for no big deal...) As nice as the chassis are, the bodies don't seem worthy of Jim Russell, not when you look at his 1/24 Carrera series. Where did he source these from anyway, Philippe? The Cro-Sal may be better, but from the photos I've seen, it doesn''t look too great either....

On the other hand, if I remember right, it was a rather basic window box, kind of like the Riggen's of the same period, and not a white box... Can't remember if this one had the 27 or 28 motor.

But given the high final price, I guess the Russkit mystique still holds!
Don
Don,
I personally do not consider them as my Holy Grail either. They were pretty much a desperate attempt by Russkit to keep in business. The Vette body is as you describe, rather horrid, the Cro-Sal and the dune buggy not that much better. A far cry from the beautiful Carrera series bodies. They came with both "27" and "28" motors. A story in MC&S (I believe) shows them with the "27", other pictures show the "28". As far as packaging, the only one I have ever seen was the bulk-style as I described and the Parma baggies.
I have as yet to see another style, but everything is possible. Lots of fascinating info has surfaced since our book, eh?


Best regards,

Philippe
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Found my Holy Grail this year: a very nice 1/24 scale Scalextric Lotus 38. That actually ended my collecting, as I own or have owned most of the RussKit, Cox, Revell, Classic, Monogram, Strombecker, MPC, Atlas, K & B, etc. cars made.
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Now that is what I want, a nice Scalextric 1/24 Lotus.

Jeff.
Jeff, check your mail, sorry I forgot all about our phone conversation!

Phil
Yup, that's the car. Comparable to the Monogram Lotus 38, nicer in some ways, not as accurate in others.

Yours is in nice shape. Looks like it suffers as mine does...missing the original rear suspension (can't see in the pic if the front suspension is intact).

Actually, mine does have rear suspension, but somewhere along the line somebody put on it the rear suspension that belongs on its companion car: a 1/24 Scalextric Ferrar F1.
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QUOTE Actually, mine does have rear suspension, but somewhere along the line somebody put on it the rear suspension that belongs on its companion car: a 1/24 Scalextric Ferrar F1.

An immediate death sentence in some countries... Man, it's going to be a toughie to find that suspension bit... I have a 1/24 1968 Cox Pontiac GTO in which some clown put an interior from the sister Camaro car. Where do you find a beater Pontiac with an intact interior?
Of course Phil probably has one and will now blackmail me, eh...?


Dok Pea
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Hi Dok,

Yeah, that bit WILL be hard to find. Heck, just getting the car in this shape was tough enough. The car in the pic also looks like it's a*s has been knocked off, the bumper and exhaust support isn't there, and the rear looks a tad truncated. Could be the angle.

Still, for my suspension bits...over the years I've had some very good luck finding the most obscure things. If I approach this with a sanguine attitude, I'll find those bits sooner or later.

Todd
Todd, you probably have a much better chance of finding that than you would have if you collected other toys. I just talked to a major antique toy dealer here, and he told me that about 10 years ago he had bought a large group of spare parts for classic 20's and 30's tin toys, for a lot of money... Over those years, he wound up using exactly one of those parts to complete a toy, and sold the stuff for half of what he bought it to make more space....

In slot cars, we're a lot luckier... there were so many bits and pieces around that what goes around comes around, or something like that....

But a Lotus suspension, I don't know..... I'd tell you my own 124 Lotus story, but I still feel kind of silly about the whole thing.... well, that's how we learn!

On the other hand, I just picked up a rare J.M Barrie Peter Pan edition for 2 euros - as you learn in ping pong, those lucky balls that catch on the corner of the table tend to even out over time....
Don
being only a 6 wheelers collector, I'd say that a Banco Occidental Tyrrell P34 (Exin) would be the mostly welcome addition. Ah, but yesterday I could get hold of one Carrera 6 wheels P34...

I'll welcome information on 6 wheels cars made by any maker.

I have the three Hornby March 240 (is it true that there is a red one or is it a ... red herring??), I have one Carrera P34 with 'Aral' sponsor (are there any more?), plus I have 7 made by exin or SCX (inculding the Coches Miticos and Planeta editions), but none of the Mexican made ones, one re-made by Polistil in year 2000, one made by Policar in 2001 (old Polistil moulds with different tampo printing, not stickers, and different pilot), and I still search the original Polistil and Strombecker ones (same cars, different box, quite easy to find).

I was told by Russell Sheldon that in F1 racing 6 wheel model cars where all the rage, years ago; have any modles survived? I might be interested.

Thanks

Maurizio
QUOTE and I still search the original Polistil and Strombecker ones (same cars, different box, quite easy to find).

The "Strombecker" version should not be too hard to find. RadTrax in Las Vegas may even have some in stock with the original box, otherwise I see them on E-Pay time to time. REH Distributing in Cincinnati were the ones distributing them after they purchased all remaining inventories after the collapse of Strombecker in Canada, and it is not impossible that Bob Haines could have a few left...
Regards,

Dok Pea
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Hi Maurizio,

I think that in the case of the ECRA F1 cars, the additional front wheels really just gave the benefit of outboard weight. I seem to recall that there was a limit on the width of the chassis and the rules required inline motors, but a major difference from today was that the rules didn't limit the class to 4 wheels and about 80% of the field used 6-wheeled Tyrrells.

Below is Pete Hore's 1982 ECRA National Championship winning car:





This cover picture of the ECRA Newsmag shows Steve Walker's 1981 winning Grand Prix car:



Phil Kalbfell built and entered this beautiful P34 in the 2001 Marconi Proxy race. The photo doesn't do the car justice!



Probably the most beautiful 6-wheeler slot car ever built. Mark Gussin's fabulous 1949 Indianapolis 500 "Pat Clancy Special":



Kind regards

Russell
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Here is a better pic of my Marconi p34. The car has a brass chassis and resin body. Russell was kind enought to donate the body and wheels to me,along with the original Matchbox kit that is built but still requires the chassis to be finished.

I built the wide track version that had the front track (s) wider.
Dave Bantoft has to be given the credit for the painting. we built this car as a combined effort with me only doint the mechanicals.i have since made another set of wheels for the Matchbox body and that will be finished as the earlier ELF version as the Strombecker version I have is moulded in the City State colours.

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Beautiful car running quite well...
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QUOTE (jonny s @ 19 Oct 2004, 12:29)I`ve been collecting long enough to know which cars are rare but my question is more personal. Which car are you searching for that perhaps the guys here can help you find. So what have you been trying to add to your collection but just cannot pin one down?

For me it`s the older SCX 6 wheeled Tyrell, boxed and mint. I see a few at swapmeets etc but I want one in mint condition. I saw one at Seans a couple of years ago for £85 and didn`t get it, fool that I am. What about you guys? Anyone rich enough to be seeking that Scalextric blue Bugatti or an Auto Union

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hi, my personal holy grail is.........

Carrera Evo F1 Jaguar (Beck`s)
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