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Ok so im a bit of a noob so sorry if this is a silly question.

I just wondered which make of cars are the ones to buy ? Are some better than others etc ? Or do you just buy them because you want that particular model ?

Ive only got scalextric never tried any others
 

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Slot.it , but before you waste any money getting them , get a ninco track not scalex sport, its much better
 

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QUOTE Slot.it , but before you waste any money getting them , get a ninco track not scalex sport, its much better

I agree, but let me get down behind the sofa and cover my ears before the fight begins!

NB: He also forgot to mention that there's a better world waiting without magnets


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I think Flange wants to start another one of those hot debates. If you have track - stick with it. If you don't - try to see different tracks in operation. Ninco has better grip that Scalextric Sport so it would appear to be better suited to running without magnets BUT if you like sliding your tail around corners then Scaley's Sport track is better than Ninco for that (with or without magnets).

Sport track is cheaper and it's MUCH easier to pick up extra bits cheap on eBay.

As for cars - I was in the same position at the start of this year. I have tried quite a few different brands and I can truthfully say that it is pretty much a matter of personal choice AND what you want from your racing.

It's more important to have evenly matched cars than the fastest. I have Slot.It and Mrslotcar.ca racers and they are FAST. BUT my favourite car is an old Porsche 935 Scalextric car I bought for about £3 and restored and kept without magnets. It's one of my slower cars but it is easy to control and drifting it around R1 and R4 curves at speed always puts a big grin on my face.

If you have a club near you and are thinking of going along then you should - just to see what classes they run - that may help you make up your mind what to buy.

My only dislike as a brand is SCX - I know some people love them with a passion but I find them a bit slow, noisy and not much fun to drive.

I love my Scalextric Super Resistant F430's for digital bash and crash. I love my AutoArt shelby cobra concepts for speed and sliding. I love my old Scalextric Ford Taurus with a new Neodymium magnet - it is almost as fast as a Slot.It (yes really all you sceptics out there). I have a Team Slot Saleen which is a handful but really very quick on the straights. My Scalextric TVR Tuscan sounds amazing - it's got a deep throated growl which is odd for a slot car but I like its lazy sound and it is almost as quick as the Taurus.

Flyslot Panoz - quick and very pretty.

Old Scalextric minis (70's or 80's) with new tyres are a hoot but you need to be a good driver.

As I said - it's all down to what you want to get from your racing. Fastest and most expensive is not always the best fun.

Whatever you do - keep having fun!!!
 

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I wish there was a club near me. The closest runs on a Friday so it would take me probably a hour to get there bit far really.

I will be mainly using them on my own and i suppose when my Dad finds out he will be popping in for a race as hes motor racing mad. I was thinking slot it cars as they look great and seem to make a lot of Group C cars which are what i love.

Just thought id ask first before i went and bought a load of rubbish. As with everything there are good and bad i suppose
 

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Hi what is your intention with these cars? Do you want the cars to be eaqually competative? Do you want to go on to some club racing in the future? (If so contact your local club) If you just want some fun stick with what you know. If you want performance Slot.it or NSR but you will need to do some basic tuning ir gluing tyres and motor, truing tyres etc. You wil also be paying more for these so that is something you will have to decide.

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If you hadn't said you love Group C, I'd have said that you should avoid Slot.it cars to start with. They're expensive and the range lacks variety. They're nice cars, some would say a necessity, but only if you're going to be racing in classes where Slot.it cars are allowed. As a home user you will most likely have much more fun by building a small range of varied cars so that you can enjoy differing handling characteristics and performance levels. That can be done more cheaply by buying the major brands; Scalextric, SCX, Carrera and possibly Ninco if you can find them at lower prices than rrp.

There are some excellent sub £20 deals on new SCX cars at the moment. Carrera analogue cars are great value, extremely well finished and robust, but they need to have their guide blades trimmed to run on Scalextric track (a simple operation needed nothing more than sandpaper, so don't let that put you off Carrera).

It's also worth keeping an eye on eBay for cheaper lightly used examples. As always with eBay though, there are still the occasional sharks who will try to sell you junk pretending it's "mint - test laps only". If the photos and/or description are vague, avoid. (and if you do get stung, please leave negative feedback so the rest of us don't get caught out too)

Whatever you do, beware the advice telling you that you have to have special tyres, motors, NSR cars or any number of other expensive modifications. Pretty much all of the cars produced nowadays are reasonable straight out of the box and modifications are only needed if you're racing competitively or expecting, for example, a Ford Escort to lap at the speed of a Group C car. Enjoy the variety and don't spend a fortune until you have a little more and wider experience. You will soon enough know what's best for you, and Mr Modifier is 100% correct when he says "Fastest and most expensive is not always the best fun."

I've tried to give a balanced view and not recommend any particular brand as being better than another, but as others have jumped straight in with the inevitable "buy Slot.it", I can't help but give my opinion too. If I were just starting out and had a limited budget, I'd buy Carrera and SCX cars and, so that I had the potential to enjoy magnetless racing in the future without needing to spend a load on new tyres, Ninco track. I'm not starting out though, and have in excess of 700 cars and forty years experience of "playing slot cars". My favourite new purchases at present are Carrera, and the cars that I race most often, and which consistently prove most popular when inexperienced friends race with me, are, again, Carrera. My Slot.its are picked up by newcomers, driven for a couple of minutes and then put down and abandoned, which I think tells you all you need to know: variety is the spice of life.
 

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Wise words from Dopamine Shrew.
You`ve stated that you won`t be club racing, so if you see a car you like, buy it & enjoy it without worrying about the performance.
Cheers,
Kev.
 

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Best is always going to open a worm can. It is such a subjective thing. And so much depends on the style of car, the style of racing and the style of performance you like.

On the rally side of the fence on a bang for buck scale, SCX cars are very hard to go past at AUD 25-50. They can be made to perform extremely well quite easily without magnets if that's your thing. SCX NASCARs are also great value and seem to be well favoured among the masses.

Slot.it cars are good value (around AUD 65) if you like the type of car they offer. I personally have only one in the garage, a GT40, and will probably not buy another offering because the choice of car on offer does not suit me. No extra spending other than tyres. But the GT40 feels a little fragile in comparison to its racing partner the NSR GT40.

NSR seems expensive (AUD 100-120) but are great to drive. And then you don't need to do anything much to it, so no spending after purchase except maybe tyres. Again, I have only one. But, there is the possibility of buying more in the future for me, because they have some variation in their range.

Ninco are quite expensive here at an RRP of AUD 80. The rally cars are fun, as are the classics. But, I've had some serious issues with split hubs. Replacing wheels frequently means replacing the complete drive train because Ninco insist on using a larger axle than others.

Scalex are relatively inexpensive but can require a lot of work to get them to run well, so... Value for money, not so good.

TeamSlot? I have only one and sent it away from home as soon as I got it running. It probably won't be in the best shape once it returns from its proxy life.

Pioneer range is limited currently. RRP is on the high side at AUD 80 but you can pick them up for bargain prices at the moment.

AutoArt are pretty and cheap but take an investment of time and money to get them running well. A poor bargain.

Carrera is a love/hate thing. You either love them or you don't. Gorgeous looking cars. Impressive range. Reasonable price. Some love their running. Some hate it. I have one that runs very well, but alas not on my track. The few others that I have are like slugs, fine if running against other slugs.

Of course there are other brands around that I do not have so can't comment upon.

The best car is one you love the look of and brings a big smile to your face when you drive it. For some it's a go fast Slot.it. For others it's a vintage Jouef. For others still its a car that they've cobbled together out of bits and bobs and bits of wire. For me? Well... that'll be the next one I get out of the box and tinker with until I get it running well.

Embs
 

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Forget what folks say about Scalex Sport track as this is a diversion. Scalex track is smooth so you have more surface grip. Mind you, the worst tyre grip on it is from Scalextric's own awful tyres!

Back to your question!

SlotIt and NSR and Revell cars will not run well if you are using standard Scalextric controllers. You need low ohm controllers. Something like 25 ohms for these cars. Or maybe a 'variable' diode controller. These will also be better for your Scalex standard cars with massive magnets fitted. Basically the magnet and motor force you to race in only the top 1cm of trigger pull, so the cars are unresponsive and dull. If you lower the ohms the car is more sprightly with better braking and acceleration and control around corners. Parma do the cheapest and the best controllers.

Putting that to one side, and on Scalex Sport track with magnets fitted and no modifications to the cras I have generally (and I stress 'generally') that from my experience:

1. Scalextric cars are rather ordinary/OK/satisfactory race cars on par with Revell and SCX and Carrera and MRRC.
2. Ninco cars sometimes beat some of these. But many are really dull racers with low performance.
3. Fly cars always beat Ninco (although you'll need fresh tyres on older models).
4. SlotIt sometimes beat Fly.
5. NSR beat SlotIt.

Beyond this, you should simply buy what you like. But make sure you can control your cars or you'll never fully enjoy their potential.
 

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Thanks for the help so far.

Ive just been looking into a few things and a little bit confused.

Ive found out that if i went digital i could run ghost cars on the track - I love this idea since i will mainly be using it on my own. But if do this i wont be able to run my older cars without putting a chip in etc. I presumed i would be able to but just as a std 2 lane track.

So for eg if i did go sclaextric digital - Can you use other make cars ? Ie fit a scalextric chip into a Slot it etc ? If you can is this a pain in the backside to do ?

AAAARRRHHHHHH nothing is simple lol
 

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As loosesalute says, buy what you like, they will all run on scalextric sport track, some faster, some slower, some more of a handful.

Slot It Group C models run well on Scalex Sport, I have no experience of these cars on Ninco.

Revell cars are reasonably quick and very well finished and detailed and they do some models notcovered by other manufacturers. Pioneer are similar, good performance and great detailing and look great but the range is currently limited to Mustangs and Dodge Chargers though they have more models in the pipeline.

Teamslot aren't the best finished and detailed cars but they are reasonably quick.

There isn't a great deal of difference in performance straight out the box between the different manufacturers, buy what you enjoy and will have fun running.

Enjoy your cars

Matthew
 

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If you already have Scalextric then build up your collection and slowly ad to your track, I'm a huge digital fan but it's certainly not a simple out of the box onto the track job.

My collection has pretty much Kat of the big names and the all have pros and cons.

Slot.it and NSR are fast, but sometimes too fast, especially on a smaller home track.

At the mo I'm a huge fan of carrera, very affordable new, huge range of car class, well built BUT you have to tweak around with the guide.

Scalextric is straight out of the box so offers an easy start, also thy sell SR cars, not the prettiest but the take a huge pounding and just keep on going. You can sometimes find these cheap off flea bay unbowed.

Where are you located, if you put that on your profile someone local will probably meet up with you to show you the different cars, if greeting to a club s difficult and not hat you want from the hobby.

Happy slotting.

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Again I can only say what works for me as a rug racer. Scaley stock nothing wrong but on a bumpy track that can just come off for no apparent reason. In addition thetyres tend to lose traction fairly quickly. My solution not cheap is as follows. Better slot it rer transmission on a scaley car with P6 tyres. Tyres stay gippy even when you come off a lot. My final solution is Slot.it Croup C. motor swapped for a std scaley motor, mainly so I can use std digital chips. However on a small track you would need to reduce the power on a standard motor anyway. The other addition is the Slot.it magnetic suspension. This has almost got rid of un-explained off. The mag suspension was bought as a laugh cause it was cheap and seemen stupid (sorry no offence menat Slot.it). The effect on a mediocre scaley rug race track i.e. a bit bunpy was jaw droppingly diffrent. In addition the wide angle of the slot guide on Slot.it means less actual de-slots as the car can end up at almost 90 deg, stoped but still recoverable with a big time penalty, This is a big advantage for poor digital drivers like us. On a recent invite some begginers went on strike demanding the slot.it cars instead of the scaley ones as they are much more fun to drive. However as many before have said there is no best car there is only what brings a smile to you. The above is my experience, if it helps.
 

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QUOTE (the shrew @ 5 Dec 2011, 10:48) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So for eg if i did go sclaextric digital - Can you use other make cars ? Ie fit a scalextric chip into a Slot it etc ? If you can is this a pain in the backside to do ?

AAAARRRHHHHHH nothing is simple lol
Scalextric chips will fit into most cars with only a little work.
One issue is the current rating of Scalextric chips
If you stick to motors that take no more current than the standard home set Scalextric motors that's no problem.
You cannot go very far up the motor performance spectrum from there before the Scalextric chips are liable to fail.
Do you want to use faster motors and digital? If you do, there are people on SF who have been there and done it.
 

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Im not sure yet but possible yes. I suppose on how the cars perform when i get my track finnished. I do have half ish built at the moment but need more track so i can make the main stright sections which is 16ft long. Ive put a post in the Track section of what iove got so far.

I think the best thing for me to do at the moment is to buy Sport Track to finnish off. At least that way i can get racing and just replace the classic track as i find good deals on ebay then go for a digital after that.

Where do you guys buy your stuff from ? Suppose ebay would be a good start but do you use any other sites ?
 

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QUOTE (the shrew @ 5 Dec 2011, 18:48) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks for the help so far.

Ive just been looking into a few things and a little bit confused.

Ive found out that if i went digital i could run ghost cars on the track - I love this idea since i will mainly be using it on my own. But if do this i wont be able to run my older cars without putting a chip in etc. I presumed i would be able to but just as a std 2 lane track.

So for eg if i did go sclaextric digital - Can you use other make cars ? Ie fit a scalextric chip into a Slot it etc ? If you can is this a pain in the backside to do ?

AAAARRRHHHHHH nothing is simple lol

G'day,

If you do go digital, with the Scaley C7042 Powerbase you get the best of both worlds where you can run all your cars on the one track, Analogue or Digital and have the ability to run 6 cars on the 2 lanes at once. You don't have to chip all your cars if they are Digital Plug Ready (DPR) as you can just take the chips out and swap them to another car (DPR chips are the C8515 chip and the C8516 F1 chip). I have about 8 of these type of chips (the C8515) and will usually use the 2 'spare' chips to swap amongst my Scaley DPR cars. Other cars that are not DPR require either the C7006 Saloon type chip or the C7005 F1 chip which are used to convert your Analogue cars to digital with a little soldering, most brands of analogue cars can be chipped using these, there is a huge list of cars that folks here on the forum have chipped with pics in the digital section. When I first got into the slots a couple of years ago I wanted cars that were fast, nowadays I buy all types/brands of cars that I like the look of and can afford at the time. Hope this helps and doesn't confuse you more. By the way you tend to be able to afford the car that you really want.

cheers

Matt
 

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QUOTE (Screwneck @ 5 Dec 2011, 05:46) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Forget what folks say about Scalex Sport track as this is a diversion. Scalex track is smooth so you have more surface grip. Mind you, the worst tyre grip on it is from Scalextric's own awful tyres!
Absolute nonsense, once again. "more surface grip" than what? Ninco? SCX? Carrera? Wood? Newcomers asking for advice aren't helped at all by comments like yours. Ice is even smoother, so by your skewed logic should provide the ultimate in grip.
 

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At 16 ft long set up, say 10 ft straight, you may just see a gain in a bigger motor depending on the actual layout. There are follk "Gaymers" that will upgrade a scaley chip or you can get the slot.it scaley chip. If you are so inclined or have a skilled mate you can upgrade chips yourself details are somewhere on this forum. There may not be much in the price now between an upgraded scaley chip and a slot.it chip.

More track grip means faster cars and more damage if you hit something! If you want to compete then racing and practise are best done on the same track type. Otherwise it is proablynot a major issue how much grip the track has as its the same for all competitors.

With care the old classic track is OK if you give it lots of TLC to keep the contacts clean. Sport track, as a rug racer just is more reliable when taken up and down a lot, but still needs a fair anount of TLC to keep it that reliable. To some of us the tinkering is part of the fun anyway?

PS INOX 3 is indespensible for track maintainace and I do not have a commecial interest in it.
 
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