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Andy, as my arm pops are usually the front I was wondering if the stronger magnets had any spreading effect on the chassis or if it was just the increased velocity and bigger offs. Have you any scale engineering blue bushings yet? I've yet to have one pop but have only practiced with them not raced. If you were ordering SE also do some nice wizzard compatible gear saver/boss thingies. More reliable because they are a single unit and cannot seperate.
 

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An ingenious solution! Just because you aren't using the clip for the body doesn't mean it can't hold the car together!


I'm looking forward to April too even if it will be my last race until who knows when.

And next week is shopping week!
 

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QUOTE (woodcote @ 18 Jan 2012, 18:40) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What you buying?
Some Pro-Predator crowns and pinions of various sizes, some .290 and .300 wheels, some lexan shells, pin tubes, BSRT gold plated ski shoes, improved springs, a BSRT G3 chassis possibly, an extra SG+ and some possibly some other front wheels.

There is some other stuff but I can't think of it off the top of my head!!

Car's looking good!!
 

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Sounds great - I'm loving the parts that are going into these Mod cars


But I'm attempting to build my Mega-G Mod projects with parts I already have in my box. As much as possible, anyway...

I am tempted to try the blue plastic bushing that Marc suggested.

Deane - the clip is very low, but it might still interfere with some lexans. The Lola Coupé I'm using is absolutely fine.

I will grind off what I can of the clip without altering the stiffness - that being the whole point of using it in the first place.

I'm also going to rebuild the rear axle and try a couple of things there to improve the stiffness of the gearbox.
 

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Yes I am thinking along the lines of building up a sizeable collection of tuning parts so I don't have to plan orders or wait until I've got money before getting parts. Then I can also play and modify any car I want to when I want to!!


Do you think it is worth getting some of the other gears such as the Super Tough gears as well as the Pro Predator or will the PPs fit happily into all of the different chassis? I could save a few dollars not having to get PPs for every car of course.

Have you seen on HT? Hornet has posted some details about tyre sizes when fitted to various size rims. He is suggesting I will need to grind down the tyres.
 

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The thing about the different gears is a difficult one to say. The Pro-predator gears are really good. If you find they don't fit in a chassis you want to use, then others might be an option. Also, with the different sizes of gears, the thing to do is to play and see what gear ratios suit the tracks and your driving style.

What I find is that our UK tracks generally need the smaller crown gears, the 20-23 tooth end, rather than the 22-25 teeth that the smaller US tracks require. And an 8T pinion comes into play - maybe - depending on you style.

As for tyres: If you can run the wide 'Quicker' wheels on a car, you have an infinite variation of tyre heights. Quicker do .250", .265", .275", .290" and .300" hubs. On those you can put all eight of the Tyco-sized Supertires, from 418" up to .448". That's a lot of combinations that really means grinding is un-necessary.

In fact, grinding silicone tyres is not something I'd try. Silicone is not very grindable material. Even with a pro tyre-truer, I'm not sure it would be easy or effective.
 

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Thanks Andy. I think you should change your username to WikiWoodcote as you are a goldmine of information!


I noticed that last week (was it really only last week!!) that I was finally getting a good turn of speed using the 21 - 22T crowns I was running compared to the standard gearing. I'm definitely going to be getting more of those sizes than anything else.

I think the reason for grinding is that he was suggesting that using 418s on a 300 rim would give you an OD of 460 which is a bit bigger than what I was running last time where I think I was using 430s in the final. He might be wrong with his measurements though.
 

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You make an excellent point with using the 290! Although I was thinking that I want my end result wheel/tyre combination to resemble a hub with a rubber band stretched round it. Very low profile indeed!!
 

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If you stretch the Tyco sized tyres too much, they can lose their flatness across the surface, which wouldn't be good, although I think they'd soon bed down. Maybe that's where the truer is useful?

The idea of using the LL sizes on the big hubs is a good one. You get three sizes, the thinnest is as thin as the .418s, if not a little thinner. Unfortunately Frank only does them in black in the softer compound, but worth a go.

Once you've got some hub and tyre combos and you start testing, it's quite easy to tell when you're too low (very grippy > but too hot > slows down > smell of smoke > flames > call fire brigade) or too high (well fast, but too crashy). You should find the hub size you need quite easily and then have 2-3 tyres sizes to go with them. So maybe start with one set of each hubs and you can then buy a few more of the size that works best.

Then sort out the gearing. That's more about your driving style and the characteristics of the layout. I reckon the first thing is to change the gearing to adapt the car to different tracks. Getting the car higher as well is definitely better for fast tracks, especially ovals. Really twisty tracks can do with dropping the tyre height because you don't need the top speed so much.

That initial testing is for finding a baseline for that car on that track. You really need to do that on an EAHORC or WHO track. But maybe we could set up a big straight somewhere in Brighton for a test session? I can just do a 22 foot straight in my house. My 'stiffened' Mega-G needs a run out
 

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RACE REPORT

The sherry bottle was dry, the mince pies had all gone but there was still a hunger that needed satisfaction. A hunger to race that is! and Who Racing came to the rescue by serving up its first 2012 helping of HO slot car racing.

Lots of members had Christmas money to burn as tires and Harden Creek Tyco's left the shop as quickly as they came in. Other were lucky enough to have Santa drop some chassis's in there Christmas stockings. Unfortunately he didn't drop one in mine L not even a single pick up!

We also had the debut of our new driver's station that was masterfully crafted by Mike Dadson and wired for business by Robin and Andy. We now have the additional feature of adjustable brakes for our racers so they can give it "a bit if roll" or "stop it on a penny".

Heats:

The heats began and newcomer Lee Henderson managed to put in some respectable times with his lexan bodied Like Like T.

Gareth had decided to go with the method of "let's try them all" and used a variety of chassis's though out his heats. He remained quite consistent until a poor run on White lane.

Some racers were probably hoping that Jon might have slipped into to hibernation over Christmas but they were to be sorely disappointed. Jon's Marchon was fresh out of the Martech shop and smashing out some cracking lap scores. But there were glimmers of hope as Darren managed to get his new HC Tyco wound up and put in an impressive 37.60 on yellow lane.

Robin found that one of his beloved Super G's was not working too well and was fish tailing round the track like an angry minnow on Blue lane. After reeling in the little blighter it was all down to a lack of traction magnets. School Boy error!

Finals:

The G final saw a great run to victory for Duncan who took his win by over five laps from Daniel. Louis brought up the back of the pack with a respectable drive and Tim didn't race as he had to leave early.

The F final went to a well deserved Stephen who also managed to cross the finish line five laps ahead of his nearest rival, which was Jonah in this case. The racing was a closer at the back with Chris beating Ollie to third place by just a lap.

Matt Harvey's managed to fend off all the competition in the E Final and took the win from Tyler. Kevin took third from Ashley who came in at the back of the pack to finish the final. A nice clean race.

The D final saw a very happy Mike take the win with his new HC Tyco. After getting used to the speed of his new beastie in the heats he managed to beat Hannah by four laps. Hannah though put in a decent effort with her Artin F and Rick remained as relaxed as every to take third place. Will unfortunately was unable to race.

Time for the C final and the shock win of this round was Ned Dadson! Thanks to great driving and fatherly prep work he managed to blow the doors off Gareth, Robin and Simon. Three grown men left the driver's station with there heads hung low while the little man stood there proud as punch. Well Done.

Into the B final and Callum repeated some of his 2011 success with a win in Yellow lane. Dave wasn't far behind and managed to keep Callum on his toes in the race. Andrew likewise applied a lot pressure to Dave finishing just 10 parts behind him. Lee this time was left in the dust a little but im sure he'll change that in races to come.

We finished the night off with the beloved A final with our regular A finalists. It was a quick race to say the least! Andy experienced some armature and bearing popping troubles and dribbled down into fourth. Darren and Mike fought tooth and nail with only Darren's occasional off causing him to drop back into third place. John managed to pop in a lap every three seconds and remained as cool as every to take the win in a stunningly quick fashion as ever.

So with the racing over it was a Junior medal for Callum and Adult medal for Jon. Yes, I know what your thinking - haven't I see this result before? - is it Groundhog Day at Who Racing? Can these two ever be stopped? Tune in for the rest of 2012 to find out.

See you next month. Remember to get your Billy Bob and Hank hats on as its NASCAR, Yeahhhhh Haaaaa!!
 
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