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Your Golden Epoch?

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Most motor racing folk look back to their favourite eras from time to time because we have brains that store memories. Like all 'disciplines' motor sport, in all its forms, has gone through highs and lows, but even during troughs, we can often reflect on something that has been stored in our minds with affection.

As usual your views and images will always be of great interest. And thanks.

A few memory joggers below.

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Yes, David, very similar to the Napier-Railton, and to Chris Williams's Napier-Bentley. When David Llewellyn built the latter in the mid 1960s, it had a more traditional sports body with a Bentley radiator shell.

Being reactionary and disliking change, I didn't take to it in rebodied form, but it's grown on me down the years.

I still regard the Napier-Railton as one of the great cars of all time.
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A few rough daubings below depicting different ways in which designers reached a compromise between the need for slick aerodynamics and directing cool air to water, oil and metal.

Today's F1 supremos would probably 'feed' these designs into a computer, and tell us why they were wrong, but I would have to ask in reply: "So what?"

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Inverted rad did not catch on ,Poppy Cock It did in the states on probably the worlds most famous hot rod the 32 ford ,there were many other American cars that featured that type of rad grill but the ford is the most well known
Perhaps the most famous (infamous?) american version by Ford, the Edsel.

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I heard the Edsel is now considered a classic despite all the comments made about its grill.
On 5 July, 1937, Porsche and the Auto-Union team travelled to New York for the Vanderbilt Cup. Held on the Roosevelt Raceway, from whence Charles Lindbergh took off on his 1927 solo Atlantic flight, Bernd Rosemeyer won the 300-mile race in the C-Type Auto-Union.

For that occasion, his car carried a swastika emblem on both flanks. Extraordinarily, perhaps, this was at the behest of the event's American race organisers. The same symbol today is now considered to be so offensive by some countries that its display is illegal.

Anyone building a slot model of Rosemeyer's car today would, presumably, have a difficult decision as to whether the swastika should be included, therefore. Historical accuracy versus evil symbol.

The same difficulty might apply to tobacco advertising on later cars, of course.

Views anyone, please?

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Tobacco is a personal choice whereas most of Europe had no choice regarding Nazi Germany.

I would go with historical accuracy on the Auto Union but also have a model Wellington bomber flying/hanging from the ceiling over your track when you run it.
I agree if you are building am exact scale replica, correct use as per Cambridge English Dictionary, then all details should be there.

I was collecting the Panini F1 car collection for a long time and they replaced the tobacco and some other advertising with other markings. Tobacco advertising not allowed on toys but these are not toys they are collectors models. At least after while when 3rd parties starting producing the missing markings they started to leave the spaces blank.

By hiding details you can't change history and if you try and hide history, good or bad, people will forget and the same mistakes can happen again.
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For this child of the sixties, the best of times for racing were...
1981 - 1991 for Group C racing
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and for Formula 1 1989 t0 1999 the 3.5 ltr and 3.0 ltr era
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Those were the best times I.m.o.
Pre-1960 F1, or GP call it what you will, leaves me cold especially those post 1950 dinosaurs in the jet-age.
Love the 1.5ltr F1 of '61 to 65 and the 3ltr cars that followed, but was to young to appreciate them really. I followed F1 starting around '72 so yeah I saw the originality of 70's and the 80's turbo cars, but the '90s cars are the ones I love most.
Similar story regards sportscars, grudging admiration for the late 50's early 60's, but this sportscar prototypes came of age with the GT40.
I have enduring fondness for the GroupCs and for the LMPs prior to the hybrid-era.

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The 1990's period F1 cars look so clean and 'aerodynamic' when seen against the current over-finned monsters to my mind.

I recall the FIA took steps to minimise the number of extra fins and stuff sticking out of the cars at one stage, but that seems to have gone by the board recently, the current Ferraris looking like a serious hazard to health with their vastly complex bargeboards!
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Anyone building a slot model of Rosemeyer's car today would, presumably, have a difficult decision as to whether the swastika should be included, therefore. Historical accuracy versus evil symbol.
I don't think so. Sourcing some swastikas might be problematic. Did Airfix make a 1/32 Me-109?

I can't believe anyone would be concerned about a model electric car with a swastikas on it. I meant a General Lee has a confederate flag.
Abarth

Yes, Airfix have had a 109 in production for years. Whether they're still sold with the correct transfers, I don't know. Germany and Austria outlawed the Swastika some time ago, so I imagine that model makers in these countries either do without such symbols, or source them from abroad.
Abarth

Yes, Airfix have had a 109 in production for years. Whether they're still sold with the correct transfers, I don't know. Germany and Austria outlawed the Swastika some time ago, so I imagine that model makers in these countries either do without such symbols, or source them from abroad.
Generally the only way to obtain a swastika for "historical accuracy" is to buy an aftermarket decal sheet.
All the model aircraft kit manufacturers I know of either exclude said markings or they reproduce them in fragmented format.
Phil

Many thanks. I've just discovered that eBay is saturated with swastika transfers for model aircraft.
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A few more Auto-Union pics taken during a truly golden era of motor racing. Apart from advanced engineering from Auto-Union and Mercedes, there were other manufacturers who produced masterpieces of the art of mechanical engineering, but for me, none really equalled the Porsche-designed supercharged V16.

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Have agree with Phil C, Group C sportscars were totally epic.


And WRC in the late 90's culminating in 2001 would be my favourite rallying era.

For instance I saw Colin take this cut in Margam park,


and thought, that's a different line. A few minutes later the PA guy comes on.

"Message from Colin McRae, will all spectators and Marshall's stand well back from the road."

I was living in Swansea then, working in a big building overlooking the Felindre Service area. I was sailing on Margam reservoir, so as it was easy to get time off in November, I was out on as many stages as I could reach for Rally GBs in 97, 98, 99, 2000 & 01.

I didn't get into F1 until the late 70's and for me the death of Colin Chapman was the first nail in the F1 coffin, and Enzo's death the final nail. I still watch every race, but I not sure why any more.
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Ah, yes, the Edsel... "An Oldsmobile eating a lemon."
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Just ten years before Bernd Rosemeyer won the Vanderbilt Cup at the Roosevelt Raceway, New York, Charles Lindbergh took off from the same venue in his Ryan monoplane and flew to Paris, thus becoming the first person to make a solo Transatlantic crossing.

As aviation often goes hand in hand with motor racing, a few pics below, taken during a period when Bugatti and Alfa usually ruled the roost in GP racing.

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