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Is Max mad?

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Max Mosley, president of the much maligned FIA
QUOTE We believe that when fully developed this system will enable a car to have about 900 kiloJoules, enough for about 120bhp for about 10 seconds. To put that in perspective, 900kJ is a two-ton road car stopping from 108km/h and going all the way back up to 108km/h again without using any petrol.

I don't always agree with him, but I do like the way this guy thinks and talks.

If you can stand a fairly heavy read in the pursuit of knowledge as to where modern racing may be headed, then take the time to peruse this - you will need quite a bit of time, but it's fascinating stuff.

Press conference with FIA President, Max Mosley. 9-Jun-06
 
#2 ·
I'll have what he's sniffing
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Seriously, it could make sense - provided it's not another ballon d'essai like the CDG wing...

Have to wait till Tuesday to know what the Party (AutoSprint) line is

Beppe
 
#3 ·
I'm a big fan of hybrid - especially the GS450h I'm driving at the moment - but difficult to see how it could work in a race situation because they are simply never running on a feathered throttle long enough to recharge the system. Regenerative breaking accounts for about 8-10% of the recharge, the rest comes from capturing unneeded energy in eth petrol engine - not a situation common to an F1 car. You'd start with charge in the system and use it, but never replace it so it would be like a NOS bottle.

My hunch is this is one of Max's usual mad ideas, designed to get people so worried they end up agreeing to what he secretly aways wanted anyway.
 
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Yes well worth the read. I like it.
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I think it's a pity that F1 is so regulated. Don't we have all the other formulas for that? Of course some regulations necessary but why not just some dimensions and leave everything else free?

Anyway back on topic the generality of the proposal makes sense. I am sure we could do something similar for slot cars. Except of course the regulations would not allow it.
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Some of us Uni students want to campaign for an electric formula between universities. There is currently a petrol single seat formula... but we'd like to start progressing a bit, as by the time we get round to designing cars for real, I think electricity is going to become a viable option.

I hope someone creates a top of the line series for electric cars... but please don't mess with Formula One... I really like it as it is now.

Andy
 
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Cool car, Scott, the magazine I read didn't really like it because it drove strangely, but they did say it was quick.

I think this is a good idea. Racing should be used to advance general automotive technology, and F1 being the pinacle, it should explore the edges of the envelope. Even if only 10% of the normal charging cycle for a road car could be utilized in the F1 car, it would still eventually build enough for a short overtaking boost, sometime during the race.

This would be much like the "push to pass" button in the Champ cars, which is just a time limited (2 min, I think) additional turbo boost switch. Except the battery and control technology could be tranfered to road cars. I still think pure electric cars are only workable as short range city cars, but Hybrids are a very exciting and logical way to maximize the benefits of various power systems together.