search for/ ferrari 340/ only no america ect brings up a lot more pics

 

Hi Gordo,

Sent you a PM and tried to include 3 photos as attachments, let me know if that failed.

This is always a can of worms, because of the different coach makers who did the body work. I assume you are only interested in the barchetta body styles.

I have Ferraris at Le Mans and Ferraris on Track, and I guess probably Red Arrows would help.

The cars that ran at MM all seem to be berlinetta bodies. But the #15 from Le Mans 51 looks closest to the black car you posted, no vents on the side of the body and a full windscreen. Tried to send you a front and side view of this car.

Cars 16, 17, and 18 from the 51 Le Mans are also similar, but the 15 came 8th and the others DNFed.

In the 52 LM, the #15 and #16 car are similar to yours. The #14 came fifth but it was a berlinetta. There was a 340 America #12, but it was Vignale bodied and had vents on the side, did not have a full windscreen, and had a tonneau.

Hope this helps. I don't have my website any more - if you didn't get the pics send me an email at pault86 at suddenlink.net and I'll send them.

Love your Ferrari addiction.

PS - the serial number 0114A did run at MM in 1951, driven by then owner O. Wild, but DNFed. Ferraris on Track lists the race results for each chassis number, a valuable book for this sort of thing, but it doesn't have pictures of all the cars.

Paul

 

Aha!

Here's that 15 car from the side, in front it had 15 painted on the grill as did the 16 which you can see farther down the page, here: http://www.motorweb-es.com/foro/viewtopic....aa66aae048adba5

The 12 and 16 from 52 are there as well. Okay!

Paul

 

Here on this webpage is a pic of a model of the 340 America that took part of the 1951 Le Mans 24 hrs.
And some more to be found here

I must say though, doing a little search turned up more pics of the Ferrari 166MM (also in race-livery), which for all I can see has pretty much the same bodyshape as the 340 you show.

Like this one

Maybe that could inspire you?

regards,
Spykerman

PS one more piccie

 

And this link is of a post on another (french forum) about some (french I expect) guy who is converting a Revell Ferrari 340 kit to a slotcar. It is all in French but there are some pictures as well.

 

Nice Work Gents! I knew that you could help me out with this!

There are at lease two pictures of the exact cars that I am looking for! Awesome.

Let me know if anyone finds any more please!

Thanks again

Gordo

 

Hey Guys; I just stumbled across the Holy Grail of Ferrari Pictures Wesite!

Check out this site if your ever looking for pics of rare and hard to find Ferrari's

Ferrari Pictures

It just goes on and on, but there are pictures on here that I personally have never seen! Great stuff

Gordo (Ferrarista) Bond 007

 

Is this to be an entry in the 2010 MMM? I hope so.

 

Hey guys I am back looking for your assistance again. I have got a serious case of "Builder Block" on the project.

I just can't decided how to paint this bloody thing.

Part of me thinks that all Ferrari's should be RED, but I already got a million red cars and I am thinking that I could use a bit more variety in my collection.

Like this one here, I think it's just a bit boring in Red.

This one is a bit better, but the discrepancy between the number plate shapes between the photo and the diecast, has me scratching my head.

Diecast

I also think that cars decorated in racing liveries are a bit more fun than ones just painted as street cars, even if the most famous version of this Ferrari 340 America is the all black street version that was unveiled at the Paris auto show back in 1951.

Diecast

The fact that this particular livery has already been done by this fellow in France, is also a small knock against it.

I suppose a person could paint it as a street car and then slap a number on it to make it look like a car that is participating in a historic auto race.

To me it is also important that the cars that I build are of actual liveries that these cars ran back in the day.

I have no idea what color this car is suppose to be.

Part of what I love about scratch building slot cars is the research and detective work that goes into identifying different cars and their histories. Tracking down a particular chassis number or serial number of the actual car that I am building can be a real thrill. Finding out when and where the car competed and who drove it etc. is all part of the fun for me.

Diecast

So having said all of this, I just can't decide what to do with this car. Can you guys help me decide how to paint this thing before it drives me mad.

Thanks in advance

Gordo Bond 007

 

For what it's worth Gordo, you know my affection for blue and black colored cars. Therefore my choice would be the last photo #17. However, the actual car in the black and white photo is most probably red. If it was actually black or dark blue, it would show much darker in the photograph.

See you tonight

Andy

 

Oh and by the way, make sure you give this baby some "on track performance" so we can actually race against it and not just admire it on the shelf!

 

In 1967 Archduke Archibald de la Fontayne raced his private one in the Scandinavian glacier rally. Paint it white with twin crimson stripes. And don't forget the penguin on the passenger seat that he used to race with.

Or how about grey like in all the black and white pictures?

 

Wasn't one of the original cars racing at LeMans colored blue, like french racing blue or something. I faintly recall coming across some such paint scheme when browsing the first time. Should me in one of my previous links (a picture of the car in blue is actually of a model).

 

Spyker my friend, thanks for your input.

I am not sure but I think that this is the car that you are refering to.

It is a 340 America, but unfortunately it is a slightly different body style to the one that I am building.

So my buddy Bullit, and I were talking last night, and he mentioned to me that the car with in the black and white photo, with the #17 and the white hood, most likely wasn't painted Navy or Black as the Diecast version is painted.

He told me to look at the numbers on the car which are black, and compare them to the colour of the body. Clearly the the body isn't as dark as the numbers.
This guys a freakin Genius! LOL

His feeling was that the car was probably Red with a white hood! Eureka, that sounds like a nice livery to me!

So what colour do you Boys think the car actually was?

Let me know your thoughts on this please.

Later

Gordo Bond 007

 

Hmm the plot thickens....

This appears to be a picture of the #17 car partaking in the 1951 - 24 hrs of Le Mans and it does indeed look like it was Navy Blue and white!

I also found a few pics of the other cars that this fellow "William Spear" (the driver of the #17 car) drove in the early 1950's and it appears that many of them were also painted Navy and White.

The search continues...

Gordo Bond 007

 

Back a bit in your post... The two cars carrying the number 16 had differing 'roundals' because the red model 340 with square white number backings was the 1951 340 entered by Chinetti whereas the one with round white backings was the car from 1952 and entered by Dreyfus. I'm in the long process of building the 1951 car out of the Gowland kit, complete with opening bonnet and boot plus full interior! This is going to take a while but it is coming on quite nicely with the body almost all done and the chassis/running gear half assembled.
Dick

 

Hey Thanks for clarifying this Trickie Dickie!

So is the kit your building going to end up being a 1/32 slot car?
I would love to see some photos of the kit and your progeress on it.

Thanks again for your input

Gordo

 

Absolutely right, it's going on the track, although I'm not really bothered how fast it will go as long as it is driveable. So far I've made re-casts of the bonnet and boot lid before removing the originals and managed to get a very good hinged fit with the replacements. The paint went well and the transfers came out great complete with the number plates (6 AK 75). The Scaglietti badges for the boot and bonnet edges haved proved a bit of a challenge and my first attempts are not really up to scratch, so they are pending at the moment. I've made the full length driver 'Chiron' and also cast up a what I hope is a more realistic grill. Yet to come is manufacturing an engine block, the battery is done as is the radiator, the interior is coming on nicely. With the accent being of an older car I'm using supershells wheels, MRRC gears, and an old 13UO motor which is hidden under the left hand tonneau cover. Lead ballast will be fitted under the driver to balance things out a little. I'll get some pictures together and post them later.
Dick

 

OK figured out the picture posting, I hope, Here's some of the progress on Chiron's 1951 Ferrari 340

this is showing the rough layout and where the motor is hiding

Bonnet and boot lid fitted

also showing the new grill

and mini 'Chiron'. More pics will follow when I've managed a bit more of the chassis.
This is a Jaguar XK 120 also converted from a Gowland (Revell) kit

Hope you like so far.......Trickie

 

Hey Trickie that is FABULOUS! Wow you are far more ambitious and tallented than I am.

Great work, can't wait to see it 100 % complete.

Thanks for sharing

Gordo Bond 007