Have you got any rules set up for the pin cars yet?

I might give this a go, because I always find the guide the hardest part when scracthbuilding.

Andy

 

andy, jeff will post more on this event as it unfolds

 

So the pin car class is for absolutely anybody shell with scratchbuilt chassis?

I think I'll definatly be oop north for this one because it's outside of uni terms so I shouldn't have a problem. I'm also quite interested in meeting Russell and seeing all the awesome World Proxy Can Am cars

. And you don't really need any more excuses to visit the Pendle track

Andy

 

Hi Andy,
The Walkden Fisher Sunday pin car race entry is full. This was because just about all the early members Of ARRA are coming people like Charlie Fitzpatrick and his son and his granddaughter, Chas keeling Graham Green, Dave Jones, and other early racers from Southport. Russell, Don, John P, Beejay and other SlotForum member will be there. More important their will be a lot of the original cars from Dave Jones, Graham Green, Charlie F, John Moxon and Myself as I will be talking some of Walkden's own cars to use.

Slot Classic are building a factory entry pin car for the event, the first manufacture built pin car for many many years.

Jeff.

 

Don, Russell.

When was the last Factory built pin guide car made?

Jeff

 

Jeff,
Easy answer: the TSRF is still in production!

Harder answer: there were practically no commercial slot pin guide cars as we think of them. The pins were mostly used in HO by all manufacturers, and by toy manufacturers like Eldon and Marx (often with a rear pin as well).

Monogram set cars came in both pin and blade versions, ca 1965-66. Can't think of any others offhand, but I'm sure somebody will correct me!
Don

 

Just to add to the list, Scalextric and Airfix also made pin guided cars in the early '60s, the later featuring two pins to facilitate steering.

 

QUOTE (dgersh @ 1 Feb 2005, 15:51)Jeff,
Easy answer: the TSRF is still in production!

Harder answer: there were practically no commercial slot pin guide cars as we think of them. The pins were mostly used in HO by all manufacturers, and by toy manufacturers like Eldon and Marx (often with a rear pin as well).

Monogram set cars came in both pin and blade versions, ca 1965-66. Can't think of any others offhand, but I'm sure somebody will correct me!
Don
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I have two pin cars with Ferrari P4 Spyder and Ford GT40 MKII Lancer bodies and mura or champion 16d motors from the late 1960's???
Regards Allan

 

I think it's fair to say that in the true sense of the term that the last 1/32 pin guide car was in the 60's Scalextric made a huge number of them as did Airfix.

Jeff

 

I've got a SCX/Altaya SEAT 600 that has a pin guide and that was made last year.

 

Quite right Scott,

As this is re-issue of a 60's Scalextric car when most of the Scalextric cars had that guide.

Best wishes,

Jeff

 

This should have gone in the original post on the WFM meeting. (this is my fault).

Their will be a best concours car were everyone will be given a single vote, the winning car is the car with the most votes.

Their will also be a which car would you most like to take home with you concours as at the rail events again everybody get one vote pictures of the winners will be posted here and given to the magazines.

Jeff.

 

QUOTE The rules are very simple all cars must be to total scale appearance. and with in the spirit of the event. Their are no other rules.

So I assume that any parts may be used to build the cars as long as they look to be scale overall?
i.e. you can use modern motors, wheels etc?

 

Phil, no all parts used to build the cars must from the correct period as the spirit is to be back in the 60's therefore so must the car be built from 60's parts. I will inspect the cars myself and anything not conforming to this without a very good reason will be banned.

The aim is very close racing, We will start with qualifying and the racers will then be split into groups of five racers who cars should have almost identical performance.

Everybody will race the same number of races and the winner is who ever completes the most laps in the day's racing.

Best wishes,

Jeff.

Scale modern wheels and tyres are fine but only rubber tyres are allowed.

 

So the cut-off date for parts used will be 31/12/69 ?

Except, of course, (I hope!) for consumables such as brass, paint, decals etc?

I know I am being a little fussy here, but it's good to get things clear before building the cars!! and as there are no rules as such it can be difficult

 

Phil,
no all consumable must be period as well. (only kidding)

Their are lots of period motors that are open frame I would rather that these were used so that all the cars had around the same kind of straight line performance as this really leads to close racing.

I would think you would have quite a few for sale if anyone needs one.

The aim of the day is that most of the racers finish on a total of laps not that many behind the winner as it all about fun.

Jeff.

 

Artin 1:43 cars are still pin guides, also Carerra Go! 1:43

Coop

 

VIP's early cars used twin pin guides, I think it's fair to nearly all the early slot car companies did at some point and some still do today.

Jeff

 

QUOTE Their are lots of period motors that are open frame I would rather that these were used so that all the cars had around the same kind of straight line performance

Jeff, I know you don't want rules as such, but surely 'open-frame motors only' would be a good one.

 

Phil,
I have to agree, so the motor rules is only open frame motors are allowed.

Jeff.

 

Hi Jeff,

Can I just clarify whether all cars will be racing together or whether seperate classes will be run for GP and Sports cars

Just so i know how many cars to build.

John

 

Hi John,
Just as at the rail racing events, the pin guide race cars will be just one class which will included both sports and Gp cars.

The original pin cars will have their own race.

I have early 60's Lotus 19 pin car that will be raced.

Jeff

 

I have had a couple of email asking what sort of bodies make good pin guide cars.

I have couple of original pins cars and have seen several more,

The Gp cars are based on a model where you have the chance to put a fairly solid chassis underneath the most popular seems to have been a Lancia Ferrari

Phil Smith has some pictures of a really nice original LF pin guide car.

Russell's Paxton Indy pin guide car

http://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4621. This thread show how to build a pin car

I seen Lotus 19 and the first Lola GT sport car pin models. So these kind of sports cars are ideal.

I have never seen a Vanwall, BRM, Maserati Gp bodied pin car.

I hope this helps

Jeff.

 

QUOTE what sort of bodies make good pin guide cars... the most popular seems to have been a Lancia Ferrari
Just to illustrate Jeff's post, here is an example of an early Lancia-Ferrari pin car:

Thanks to Jeff for the pictures

 

Jeff has also sent me this photo of a Maserati built and raced by Robert Schleicher back in 1963:

...just superb!