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VHC National Bordeaux, 8 & 9 Decembre 2018

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As a first-time competitor, and not wanting to take over a thread elsewhere, I thought it worthwhile starting this one 'ere.

The regs. were published yesterday courtesy of Samy Beraha at SRC Bordeaux and Don Siegel, and are attached.

Hope those who've commented so far don't mind me cutting and pasting: Gordon has said that his "...intention is to hedge my bets and have both a couple of modern cars and a mix of '60s anglewinders and Parma Womps. I certainly wouldn't expect the Pitmanns or Atlas type cars to be competitive". Gerry offered that "...1/24th is unchanged, I am trying a Falcon motor in an iso chassis with a nice Lancer Chapparal body, plus two back up cars with Parma 16D."

I haven't gathered my thoughts about 1:24th, but in 1:32 my first intentions are to dust off a couple of 20 degree anglewinder UK club cars with home-brew rewinds, circa 1969, to run in the VEC category. At least we have a Carrera club track here at Confolens so I can see if I'm way off the mark, before travelling to Bordeaux! Tyres... A cut-off date a decade later than the usual 1972 will need some consideration.

Any advice for newbies, Don et al?

Richard
 
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Good idea to start its own thread.

The main problem with using the 60's cars is tyres of course. Those designed for sticky spongies do prove 'interesting' on urethanes. On my track - which gives a pretty good indication of what will go at Bordeaux, at least on the big track - I find that slightly milder motors are a better bet. Things like the Parma 16D seem about right powerwise, still quick but a bit more controllable. This theory will be proved or disproved in December
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As said elsewhere, I'm going to bring a mixture and we will see what works and what doesn't. I am actually looking forward to trying the really hot motors but for racing, I reckon the Parmas are safer.
 
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Cars so far.

32nd is sorted I think although I might get a SlotIt kit with an anglewinder Flat6 motor to see how that compares with the inline. The cars are in the order of speed on my track. The Muras are quickest in a straight line but the Parmas are more drivable with urethanes. Be interesting to see if it is different at Bordo.

24th is more problematical. I have a cunning plan though so will order some brass from Pendles on Monday.
 

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Gordon, those in the middle are similar to the cars I intend to get out of the grange soon. The bodies look like vacforms? Mura... Carrera piste... urethanes... you're a brave man!
 
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Brave or.......

That's why I have the two Womps in reserve. For some reason, one of them handles quite superbly and I suspect it is the one I will use. However, a bit of insurance doesn't hurt. All vac forms. Two are the usual clear variety and the others are plasticard which I prefer as it allows a bit of repair and modification.

I was hoping to race them on the big track but if it's the Carrara so be it.

The J car is a rescue job which is why it's black where it should be blue. The previous owner had it painted all black and I just couldn't get it all off. It looks a bit rough but I hope it will pass the 'run wot you brung' rules!
 
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13hrs30 Friday 7 December: Samy at SRC Bordeaux has just rung to say that, under Prefecture advice, he's had to call off this weekend's meeting. This is because of the possible violence accompanying the 'gilets jaunes' protests.

There is a possibility of rescheduling for January.

Richard
 
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I have just taken a load of mince pies out of the oven that I was going to bring down!!

Looks like I might expand a few inches then - something to enjoy at least. Probably ruined Ronnie's weekend too....no doubt she had plans with a bit of freedom from me for a while.
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I put together a Dynamic 1:24 with new (to me) Revell open GT40 vacform complete with original 1965 stickers, but nowhere near as much work as you went to Gordon with three especially built cars.

Well done and thank you Appart'City Bordeaux Centre via Booking.com. Despite my reservation tomorrow being pre-paid and non-refundable, they've credited me with a night's stay until 31 July next year. It was worth my asking then!

The mince pies would last until January wouldn't they? Save your waistline
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The mince pies would last until January wouldn't they? Save your waistline
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Not a chance
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I suffer from various weaknesses - like most no doubt - nearly all of them involve puddings and cakes. For someone who has been stick thin all his life and still only has an embryo paunch, this may come as a surprise.

As it is, it will be a miracle if the pies last until next week! At least I haven't made the pud this year or a sampler would be on the table tomorrow to go with the pies!
 
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...As it is, it will be a miracle if the pies last until next week!...
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As I took the trouble of picturing my 'build' at Confolens SRC, here it is. The body came from an estate sale still proceeding at CSRC. Now there's time before the hopefully postponed not cancelled race I should do some bigger rears; at the moment the clearance under the crown gear is approaching BSCRA-like naff all!
 

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I do like the Dynamic frames.

That looks like one with a drop down front. How does it handle or have you fixed it in place? Most of mine have now got broken wands (no more magic?) but they are easily replaced with aluminium U section that appears just as good.

I mostly use the sidewinder 26D version but have one inline going in an Alfa saloon. A bit narrow and tippy so I'll try it in something wider. We could then have a proper race
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Hmm, I somehow missed this thread back in October...

Yep, very disappointing, but a reschedule in January would be nice - I just talked to Samy very briefly yesterday, and he didn't mention that.

That's a good looking car Richard, and should go very well; I've used that layout on a couple cars now and it's reliable, and well suited to the AMF Royal at Bordo. Curious, but I don't remember any Dynamic chassis at my local track in Chicago, just transitioning from Cox, Russkit, etc. all the way to scratchbuilds. Team Dynamic did enter some modified Dynamic chassis in the big SoCal pro races, but I think the best they did was reach a semi... still not too bad given the competition!

Don
 
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"...That looks like one with a drop down front. How does it handle or have you fixed it in place?..."

It's fixed, Gordon. As such it handled fine on Rockingham's raceway - which is nice and smooth - although any handling deficiencies would have been masked through lack of grip on a poor pair of Ortmanns. Entertaining drifting though! Confolens' Carrera plastic isn't grippy or long enough for sponge. Can't wait until France's longest 'piste de bois' at Champagne Mouton is ready!
 
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The best way of seeing 'our' (Bruno Bisenius') wooden routed track is go to the Facebook page for Confolens Slot Racing Club and scroll down to 25 September 2018. There's a video shot by Jean-Mi of the first laps run after we completed braiding one lane. The track was rescued from down near Bordeaux and has been extended because of the long room it's in. 17m main straight
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The aim is to run the Sept. 2019 Sunday 6H de Confolens on it, in conjunction with a warm-up race Saturday (as before) but also a swap meet. As you can see we've got the room! Where it's housed is, I gather, the old school where Bruno first taught. Look at the solar panels, we won't be short of power! 16350 Champagne Mouton.
 

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